Is Danny Williams really a Bum?

[Zab Super Judah]

williams isnt a bum and he has a pretty good heavyweight chin although not great......but i dont think he could beat vitali.......hes better suited fighting people like brewster and rahman

[elveiel]

Of the people that claim Danny's a bum, how many have actually seen more than one of his fights?

Yes, most of the people who call Williams a bum have only seen him destroy Tyson and a couple of clips of him getting beat by Samil Sam.

Danny isnt a bum, he's got world class skills for a big Heavyweight!! If things were a little different he could have been number 1 but he such a **** up its unlikely he'll ever do really well, you only have to look at his defeats to realise how bad he can perform when his mental problems kick in!!

The injury Tyson suffered was bull****, he may have hurt his leg abit but it didnt effect his performance much. I have watch that fight many times and i cant see how anyone can say it did, he was doing exactly the same until he got blasted out!! Tyson fans should let go and realise he's not the same fighter anymore!!

I have seen a lot of Williams fights myself, i know how well he can perform but i also know how bad he can perform too!!

Williams chin isnt that good and its likely Vitali could beat him early, I'm still unsure if Williams can use his superior skills and wear him down ready for the KO. At the moment I'd favour Vitali in this fight but i definitly not writing Williams off.

[mr.thraz]

Yes, most of the people who call Williams a bum have only seen him destroy Tyson and a couple of clips of him getting beat by Samil Sam.

Danny isnt a bum, he's got world class skills for a big Heavyweight!! If things were a little different he could have been number 1 but he such a **** up its unlikely he'll ever do really well, you only have to look at his defeats to realise how bad he can perform when his mental problems kick in!!

The injury Tyson suffered was bull****, he may have hurt his leg abit but it didnt effect his performance much. I have watch that fight many times and i cant see how anyone can say it did, he was doing exactly the same until he got blasted out!! Tyson fans should let go and realise he's not the same fighter anymore!!

I have seen a lot of Williams fights myself, i know how well he can perform but i also know how bad he can perform too!!

Williams chin isnt that good and its likely Vitali could beat him early, I'm still unsure if Williams can use his superior skills and wear him down ready for the KO. At the moment I'd favour Vitali in this fight but i definitly not writing Williams off.

im sorry to say that u dont know what your talking about.

if your knee is damaged you cant throw the hook or uppercut with much power at all.

i hated mikes prefomances these last 6 years, but those first few rounds where the best id seen mike since the 80's.

then it went away as soon as his arms spasumed from the pain of his knee tearing.

he was a completely diffrent fighter after that.

just try to throw a hook with out pivoting on you lead toes, you'll be throwin a wet noodle.

[Cletus Funk]

im sorry to say that u dont know what your talking about.

if your knee is damaged you cant throw the hook or uppercut with much power at all.

i hated mikes prefomances these last 6 years, but those first few rounds where the best id seen mike since the 80's.

then it went away as soon as his arms spasumed from the pain of his knee tearing.

he was a completely diffrent fighter after that.

just try to throw a hook with out pivoting on you lead toes, you'll be throwin a wet noodle.

It was obvious to me from his reaction that it wasn't a particularly bad tear (I've torn both of mine in the last 18 months)and I think people give too much consideration to it. It didn't seem to effect his movement coming forward that much and I thought that his performance fell away in the same way as it has in a few of his more recent fights.

[leff]

Bum no, Danny is an allright guy, with chin and skills, however Vit will beat him.

[TheFairPole]

I think Williams is a very tuff guy! He isn't going to go away easily. Vitali will be too much for him though. Vitali wins by middle to late round TKO!

[elveiel]

im sorry to say that u dont know what your talking about.

if your knee is damaged you cant throw the hook or uppercut with much power at all.

i hated mikes prefomances these last 6 years, but those first few rounds where the best id seen mike since the 80's.

then it went away as soon as his arms spasumed from the pain of his knee tearing.

he was a completely diffrent fighter after that.

just try to throw a hook with out pivoting on you lead toes, you'll be throwin a wet noodle.

Come on, be serious!! You cant possibly be that gullible!!!

The injury wasnt that bad, it didnt stop him from throwing the shots and it didnt effect his power.

I have watched the fight many times, i have even watched to injury moment about 5 times before writing this and 2 seconds after as he grabs his knee, he's throwing big left hooks, he was pivoting on it straight after!! Like you said, you cant pivot if you had that type of injury!!

Tyson may have been slighty injured but that wasnt the reason he got KO'd. I would love to say it was because i'm a Tyson fan but i admit he's just an old man who isnt good enough anymore.

[Guest]

While I still favour Vitali (though I've bet on Danny at 5-1) one advantage Danny has over Klit is superior stamina.

[lsk]

He is not a bum but i dont think he can beat vitali

[mr.thraz]

Come on, be serious!! You cant possibly be that gullible!!!

The injury wasnt that bad, it didnt stop him from throwing the shots and it didnt effect his power.

I have watched the fight many times, i have even watched to injury moment about 5 times before writing this and 2 seconds after as he grabs his knee, he's throwing big left hooks, he was pivoting on it straight after!! Like you said, you cant pivot if you had that type of injury!!

Tyson may have been slighty injured but that wasnt the reason he got KO'd. I would love to say it was because i'm a Tyson fan but i admit he's just an old man who isnt good enough anymore.

i been boxing since i was 13, if you cant pivot you cant fight with power. infact you cant even slip a shot while beng in postion to fire back. you could come forward but you'd only have your jab and your right hand and that would put mike at a serious diadvantage.

yeah mike lost but williams isnt as much to blame as mikes knee, and this is coming from a guy whos been talkin **** about mike for the last 5 years, i am by know means a tyson lover.

any knee injury that makes your arms involentarly flap at your sides during a fight must have hurt him enough to stop him from pivoting. and the evidence of this is he couldnt back william up after the spasam, but was doing it easly beforhand.

so yeah it did effect his power. it affected the whole fight.
watch it again.