Comments Thread For: Charlo on Being Undisputed: This is Legacy, This is Something That is Legendary

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  • Topdogggbm
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    #11
    Originally posted by xEcto1x
    Of the current fighters who have become undisputed at a weight Usyk, Charlo, Taylor, Canelo, Crawford I rank them in that order according to achievement based on competition.
    You think Usyk had the hardest road to undisputed?! I think beating Gvodsyk (I KNOW that I spelled that wrong I'm sure) was the only quality win there. I do like Usyk, and he is the goods. But specifically, his road to undisputed was not difficult at all.

    I don't wanna rank them without having all the info in front of me, but I wouldn't put Usyk first at all. But I DO like your comment and the intent behind it!

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    • AKAcronym
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      #12
      Originally posted by Topdogggbm

      You think Usyk had the hardest road to undisputed?! I think beating Gvodsyk (I KNOW that I spelled that wrong I'm sure) was the only quality win there. I do like Usyk, and he is the goods. But specifically, his road to undisputed was not difficult at all.

      I don't wanna rank them without having all the info in front of me, but I wouldn't put Usyk first at all. But I DO like your comment and the intent behind it!
      You sure you know the road Usyk took to undisputed?

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        #13
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        If this guy was a PPV attraction in a talent heavy division, he wouldn’t be talking about legacy. Undisputed wouldn’t be important. He can’t draw flies so now he is all about “legacy”.
        He has unified a talent heavy division and just had 2 great fights with Castano.

        If he's not a PPV attraction oh well. He's certainly giving boxing fans something of value.

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          #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          He has unified a talent heavy division and just had 2 great fights with Castano.

          If he's not a PPV attraction oh well. He's certainly giving boxing fans something of value.
          It was a good fight, but Castano is not a world class fighter. It’s not a talent heavy division. Hurd was exposed, he was supposed to be the next big thing at 154. Anyone who can spot talent knew he was nothing special. If nothing else I would say it’s a competitive division because the bar is fairly low compared to some of the other weight classes. Jermell being dismissive of Crawford suggests he will look for any excuse not to fight him when he moves to 154.

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            #15
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            It was a good fight, but Castano is not a world class fighter.
            You're out of your mind. Castano is a terrific fighter, top class.

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            • Zodogg
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              #16
              They always find a way to downplay a man's achievement. Jermell fought every top name that 154 had to offer. Castano beat whoever he could get in the ring and beat them. Don't try to water down Castano, he is a great fighter. He would have beaten a lot of guys last night with his performance. FOH with that hate. What ever you think about Charlo he stamped his name in the history books

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              • soul_survivor
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                #17
                Charlo nudges himself into top 10 p4p. Being undisputed still means a lot in boxing.

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  You're out of your mind. Castano is a terrific fighter, top class.
                  Sure he is. Lol.

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                    #19
                    Mayweather - who adopted the 'Money' moniker over 15 years ago - said: "They say 'It's not all about the money'... well, your kids can't eat legacy.“

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                      #20
                      Do you know, that I have never watched any of the Charlo's fight. The 154 pound division is not a division, I have ever bothered tracking.

                      But I do think its is a considerable achievement in Charlo becoming undisputed in such a division. Regardless, if it appears to be a under par divisions or not.

                      Apparently the middleweight divisions are meant to be the most highly participated divisions in boxing. Due to the dimensions of the fighters, it attracts the highest participation numbers universally.

                      This is probably why historically, these divisions are always quite strong. I have never witnessed people complain about the middle-weight divisions like they do about the state of the Heavyweights etc.

                      What I really think would help improve the lower weight divisions even more, is same day weigh in's. I honestly think if the same day weigh in's where reintroduced.

                      The fighters would improve, and the quality of action would be much better. Just from the fact, of fighters living a more optimal lifestyle.

                      Note: I would say the Middle-Weight to Light Heavyweight divisions are below par, definitely in comparison to past era's. But to become undisputed, it is still a big deal. I don't really rate any of these middle-weights very highly historically.
















                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-15-2022, 01:40 PM.

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