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**TernceBudCharlo** · 05-12-2022, 12:40 PM

Crawford should be 1. Really there's no way Canelo should be above Shakur Stevens, Tank Davis, Lomacheko, or Chocolatito, but I'll take this ranking. Lomacheko fell off the list when he took a loss, so did Gonzalez. GGG fell off the list after losing to Canelo. Canelo can earn it back by fighting Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez.

**RJJ-94-02=GOAT** · 05-12-2022, 01:28 PM

I agree with the top 3. The rest are pretty much interchangeable IMO. Estrada is probably a little too high also if I’m nitpicking. Solid list overall.

**hugh grant** · 05-12-2022, 02:11 PM

Poor nelo. Fighting every 3 months didn't earn him favours

**The Big Dunn** · 05-12-2022, 02:15 PM

No Fury is complete bullshit. Bivol should be ahead of Canelo. Shakur should be on list. You can put Taylor ahead of him if you wish.

I’m putting Navarette on (had him on my list for months) and taking Loma and Gonzalez off.

Oleksandr Usyk
Terence Crawford
Naoya Inoue
Errol Spence Jr.
Tyson Fury
Dimitry Bivol
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez
Shakur Stevenson
Josh Taylor
Emmanuel Navarette
*Juan Francisco Estrada
GGG
Vasily Lomachenko
Tank Davis
Nonito Donaire

**The Big Dunn** · 05-12-2022, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

Crawford should be 1. Really there's no way Canelo should be above Shakur Stevens, Tank Davis, Lomacheko, or Chocolatito, but I'll take this ranking. Lomacheko fell off the list when he took a loss, so did Gonzalez. GGG fell off the list after losing to Canelo. Canelo can earn it back by fighting Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez.

Bro- Canelo not ahead of Tank and Shakur?

Come on. I already had to agree with redeemer and Sid knee this week.

Don’t make me have to agree with Ghostof and Madison.Lol

**TernceBudCharlo** · 05-12-2022, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by The Big Dunn

Bro- Canelo not ahead of Tank and Shakur?

Come on. I already had to agree with redeemer and Sid knee this week.

Don’t make me have to agree with Ghostof and Madison.Lol

That was ****** of me, I should have put Fury on my list.

I just view p4p as different than a lot on this forum, to me it's a list of how difficult someone is to beat, resume matters but it's not everything. Tank and Shakur are just on a roll right now. I knocked on Tank's resume but to be honest you have to admit his wins over Barrios and Cruz look really good now considering how massive Barrios looked vs Keith (and Keith still couldn't' stop him) and Cruz's performance vs. Gamboa. And Valdez was looking like a world beater vs. Berchelt. But I'm fine putting Canelo ahead of Tank and Shakur for now, Canelo's overall body of work is better than theirs. Give Tank and Shakur 2-3 more fights and I think they'll prove that they belong above him.

As for Gonzalez, I took him off my list after the SSR fight. But to me he's more than earned the right to be back on there with an absolutely brilliant title win over Yafai and to me what was a clear robbery vs. Estrada, who was a p4p fighter. Dominating win over Martinez too.

**IronDanHamza** · 05-12-2022, 02:56 PM

Shakur has to be in there.

**MulaKO** · 05-12-2022, 03:06 PM

Bivol should be in front of Canelo
Wtf or else it’s no use

**GhostofDempsey** · 05-12-2022, 03:15 PM

I guess it would help to know how far back they are judging a fighter's accomplishments when deciding their rankings. How far does one recent loss send you down on the list? How far does one recent win raise you up on the list? Are they considering career spanning accomplishments--winning titles in multiple weight classes will outweigh being a champ in only one? The eyeball test? Quality of wins? These are all very subjective lists, and each list, Ring, ESPN, Boxrec, etc., has different rankings.

Teo was briefly launched ahead of Loma when he won, now he is nowhere to be found. Kambosos didn't even sniff the top ten when he beat Teo. Yet, Chocolatito is on the list after one win over a marginal opponent, so I'm guessing his volume of work is being taken into consideration here? GGG just unified titles at 160 as did Shakur at 130, both dominating performances. Unlike Taylor who struggled and some argue was given a gift.

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