Canelo Messed Up By Fighting Bivol

[TernceBudCharlo]

Actually he had 2 losses... One of them hidden under the carpet ..

Anyone who scored the Lara fight for canelo is a fool. He landed 20 head shots all fight.

That's the day boxing made this new rule that jabs don't count and bodyshots count more than head shots.

[MikeyMike100]

We already proved that he wasn't daring to be great though. Canelo doesn't follow boxing, neither do the reynosos. You never see them at events besides their own fighters. Eddie Hearn was the one who advised them to fight Bivol and he admitted that the reason they picked him was because he looked average against Richards and Castillo. Canelo, like all of the media, fans, fighters, and most people on this forum, thought Bivol was a basic 1-2 Euro fighter w high guard defense and no skill. He thought it would be an easier win than Charlo or Benavidez and it backfired like crazy. Nobody in the world thought Bivol had a chance including the "experts", so you can't say he was daring to be great.

Ya he was trying to pick off another belt at a higher weight class. Dont think he wouldve chose Beterbiev.

[Smash]

Eddie Hearn was the one who advised them to fight Bivol and he admitted that the reason they picked him was because he looked average against Richards and Castillo. .

nelo and his teams ego was out of control possibly, they were going for undisputed at LHW & smashing ggg at SMW, juggling too many balls, bivol was always seen as a good boxer by people, look at his results, its mexicans and others who totally dismissed him, nelo was seen as hercules, going to smash usyk next, his ability to deliver all of this was over estimated by people, people literally thought he could do it all, this new experienced power version smashing people, but not able to smash everyone

[Queen_Leia]

Im not saying that.. Im saying thats the way the general public was treating him.

How is that Alvarez fault?

You dont take a hard fight like this in the first of a 3 fight deal.

Why now? He believes in his abilities and was daring to be great.

Especially if you have the 3rd GGG which DAZN was banking on when they signed GGG to that 100 million dollar deal.

Why would any company pay that kind of money to any boxer just for a boxer to take easy fights?

Canelo and Eddie Hearn thought it was going to be an easy fight.

Hearn is on record in various interviews saying Bivol would be hard.

[Queen_Leia]

We already proved that he wasn't daring to be great though. Canelo doesn't follow boxing, neither do the reynosos. You never see them at events besides their own fighters. Eddie Hearn was the one who advised them to fight Bivol and he admitted that the reason they picked him was because he looked average against Richards and Castillo. Canelo, like all of the media, fans, fighters, and most people on this forum, thought Bivol was a basic 1-2 Euro fighter w high guard defense and no skill. He thought it would be an easier win than Charlo or Benavidez and it backfired like crazy. Nobody in the world thought Bivol had a chance including the "experts", so you can't say he was daring to be great.

Not to be funny but tell me how Terence Crawford has dared to be great? I'm just trying to get a assessment of what you consider a boxer daring to be great?

[_Maxi]

We already proved that he wasn't daring to be great though. Canelo doesn't follow boxing, neither do the reynosos. You never see them at events besides their own fighters. Eddie Hearn was the one who advised them to fight Bivol and he admitted that the reason they picked him was because he looked average against Richards and Castillo. Canelo, like all of the media, fans, fighters, and most people on this forum, thought Bivol was a basic 1-2 Euro fighter w high guard defense and no skill. He thought it would be an easier win than Charlo or Benavidez and it backfired like crazy. Nobody in the world thought Bivol had a chance including the "experts", so you can't say he was daring to be great.

I am no "boxing expert" but I knew Bivol was legit and that he would trouble Canelo, at least.

If you didn't know how good Bivol was then YDKSAB.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Not to be funny but tell me how Terence Crawford has dared to be great? I'm just trying to get a assessment of what you consider a boxer daring to be great?

Taking on Spence this fall, a young hungry p4p top 5 lion in his prime, brutally hurting or stopping almost everyone in his path, and coming up 3 weight classes to do it, that will be daring to be great. He has been trying to make that fight happen for years now, calling him out 24/7, and this fall I think it will happen.

The difference between Canelo and Bud is that whenever the media and critics say there is a guy out there that wlll beat you, Bud says bring it on. Canelo just makes excuses why he shouldn't fight him. And no, I don't care about Trout or Lara, that was over 9 years ago. He was forced to take both of those fights in order to be relevant, he never would have taken those fights as the billionaire golden goose that he is today.

[TernceBudCharlo]

I am no "boxing expert" but I knew Bivol was legit and that he would trouble Canelo, at least.

If you didn't know how good Bivol was then YDKSAB.

I knew Bivol was legit, I told everyone the was a real fight. But the whole world said otherwise. Even the guy in this thread right now I'm pretty sure a while back he made a thread on who was a threat to beat Beterbiev. I kept saying Bivol and they all laughed at me.

[GhostofDempsey]

I don’t think this loss hurts him at all. He is still undisputed at 168, and his fans appreciate that he stepped up to 175.

[Roadblock]

I don’t think this loss hurts him at all. He is still undisputed at 168, and his fans appreciate that he stepped up to 175.

All he got to do is go back down to his weight and dominate and all will be forgotten very quickly, it will be he was too green for Floyd and too fat for Bivol, all he has to do is go back and KO GGG and he is on top again, just the way the sport rolls.