Comments Thread For: Bivol on Canelo: I Think He Wants a Rematch; He's a Guy Who Loves a Challenge

[Superbee]

Now a rematch at 175 is a different case. Bivol has a "legal" agreement to give Canelo a rematch at 175, but not at any other weight, which was my point. I would like to see them skip the rematch and fight at 168 as that would (imo) be a more interesting fight.

What if Bivol actually challenges Ginger @ 168 ? That would have nothing to do with the rematch @ 175 right ?

[edgarg]

I've always believed that Canelo was overrated just like Del a hoya. Like Del a hoya, he's made his fame and fortune off of decent fighters. Put him up against elite fighters, hall of famers, he will lose. Like Del a hoya, he does not have one hall of famer on his resume, maybe Whitaker and GGG, but he was handed a gift against Whitaker and in their first GGG fight. Same for Lara. Canelo has now lost to Floyd, a hall of famer and Bivol, possible hall of famer, but an elite boxer. Every elite fighter Oscar faced, he lost to. He lost to Trinidad, Floyd, Mosely (2x), Bhop, and Pac.

I don't believe he'll go for the rematch next, another loss and his so called invincibility is gone. He'll go with GGG and he damn sure won't fight Beterbiev or Benevidez anytime soon, if ever. He's good, but I don't believe he'll beat the top fighters.

The GREAT difference being that although Oscar had a "Brains Trust" which carefully considered all his fights , and only chose the definitely winnable ones, He was a far better fighter and boxer than Alvarez. He lost to his HOF opponents, yes, but he FOUGHT them. and did well, although not enough to win.

After he lost that narrow fight against Trinidad (he did lose) he became less choosy and fought more risky foes than before. He came up short, but was always capable of winning, and gave it his best.

His ******* habit had a lot to do with his losses I'd say. But again, quality wise , far superior to Alvarez.

[Superbee]

This is a very true statement, u cannot force someone to fight at a weight they dont want to fight at, well unless u make them an offer they cant refuse i guess

The only reason Ginger would say no to 168 is simple: FEAR ...

[Smash]

Now a rematch at 175 is a different case. Bivol has a "legal" agreement to give Canelo a rematch at 175, but not at any other weight, which was my point. I would like to see them skip the rematch and fight at 168 as that would (imo) be a more interesting fight.

yes and more winnable for nelo u would think, flip side im sure he has to pay more to bivol to bring him down plus his belts are on the line so a loss at 168 would be very costly indeed, but nelo backs himself at 168 more im sure and there is an issue of his pride and his fans too

[OldTerry]

This is a very true statement, u cannot force someone to fight at a weight they dont want to fight at, well unless u make them an offer they cant refuse i guess

Now a rematch at 175 is a different case. Bivol has a "legal" agreement to give Canelo a rematch at 175, but not at any other weight, which was my point. I would like to see them skip the rematch and fight at 168 as that would (imo) be a more interesting fight.

[Smash]

The rematch will not be at 168 unless both Bivol and Canelo want it at 168..

This is a very true statement, u cannot force someone to fight at a weight they dont want to fight at, well unless u make them an offer they cant refuse i guess

[OldTerry]

true, if bivol goes to 168 & takes nelos belts, wow thats some achievement, very few guys go down for big fights, they demand catchweights to make it happen

bivol will need to be as dominant again in the rematch, the fight is a bigger one with all the belts on the line, bivol should demand a % and make a killing in this fight, that cash goes a loooonnggg way in any place ending in stan

The rematch will not be at 168 unless both Bivol and Canelo want it at 168. The rematch that Bivol promised Canelo is at 175.

[OldTerry]

'...size, speed, and technique was far too much for the sport’s box office and pound-for-pound star.'


Strange that Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Rocky Fielding, and Sergey Kovalev weren't too big, though they measure between 6'0 and 6'3", but Bivol who is also 6'0" was. What gave him a real advantage over Canelo was superior footwork, and boxing know-how, enabling him to either get out of range or use a perfect guard at precise moments.

Being a bit taller is not even 10% of this story. Esp. bearing in mind that he did a lot of fighting in the pocket, and fights in a slightly crouched stance, thus giving up his height advantage, anyway.

Bivol should take this fight at 168 to shut the boxing media up; a class who are increasingly persuading me that thye know not a lot about the sport they're reporting on.


And yes, I do need to get a life, and drop this insane crusade to ensure Bivol gets the credit he deserves. But no, I don't think I'm going to.

I don't think Canelo will fight Bivol at 168 for the four Belts, too much to lose. If they do fight at 168, then my hat is off to Canelo. The rematch will be at 175 with Canelo having nothing to lose belt wise.

[Corelone]

Just because Bivol doesn't fight at 168 doesn't mean he's too big. He just doesn't want to, I guess.

[slindee3]

I've always believed that Canelo was overrated just like Del a hoya. Like Del a hoya, he's made his fame and fortune off of decent fighters. Put him up against elite fighters, hall of famers, he will lose. Like Del a hoya, he does not have one hall of famer on his resume, maybe Whitaker and GGG, but he was handed a gift against Whitaker and in their first GGG fight. Same for Lara. Canelo has now lost to Floyd, a hall of famer and Bivol, possible hall of famer, but an elite boxer. Every elite fighter Oscar faced, he lost to. He lost to Trinidad, Floyd, Mosely (2x), Bhop, and Pac.

I don't believe he'll go for the rematch next, another loss and his so called invincibility is gone. He'll go with GGG and he damn sure won't fight Beterbiev or Benevidez anytime soon, if ever. He's good, but I don't believe he'll beat the top fighters.