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  • BustedKnuckles
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    Originally posted by P to the J View Post
    '...size, speed, and technique was far too much for the sport’s box office and pound-for-pound star.'


    Strange that Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Rocky Fielding, and Sergey Kovalev weren't too big, though they measure between 6'0 and 6'3", but Bivol who is also 6'0" was. What gave him a real advantage over Canelo was superior footwork, and boxing know-how, enabling him to either get out of range or use a perfect guard at precise moments.

    Being a bit taller is not even 10% of this story. Esp. bearing in mind that he did a lot of fighting in the pocket, and fights in a slightly crouched stance, thus giving up his height advantage, anyway.

    Bivol should take this fight at 168 to shut the boxing media up; a class who are increasingly persuading me that thye know not a lot about the sport they're reporting on.


    And yes, I do need to get a life, and drop this insane crusade to ensure Bivol gets the credit he deserves. But no, I don't think I'm going to.
    Good points. But Rocky Fielding? Ha ha.

    One big difference between Bivol and Fielding is that Bivol knows what a sit-up is.

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  • The Big Dunn
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    Originally posted by Smash View Post
    sounds like bivol is willing to give 168 a crack for all the belts & a 10 mil plus payday
    Yup. Sounds like Bivol thinks he’d make an easy 8 figures.
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  • HeadShots
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    Originally posted by ramses07 View Post

    Yeah im sure him throwing haymakers in the first half of the fight, or the extra weight didnt have anything to do with it.

    I also agree that his pace added to tiring him out

    Bivol would D up when Canelo was on offense. When Canelo tries to take a breather, Bivol would piece him up that entire time. Canelo couldn't breathe in there.

    his gas tank has never looked so bad for a reason. This is a guy who gets 11 round KO's late n the fight. he was done by 6th.
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  • ramses07
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    Originally posted by HeadShots View Post




    his issue with stamina has to do with Bivol's pressure and pressure. he never let Canelo fight at his pace.
    Yeah im sure him throwing haymakers in the first half of the fight, or the extra weight didnt have anything to do with it.

    I also agree that his pace added to tiring him out

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  • HeadShots
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    Originally posted by ramses07 View Post

    It’s not that Bivol is too big, it’s that he acclimated at weight

    he can show his skills, compsure etc comfortably at that weight

    canelo was just fighting at 160 not that long ago

    So going up in weight that much probably slowed him down and wore on his stamina

    his issues with stamina had kinda gone away

    but that’s really why weight classes exist not cause of size but how good u can really be at a particular weight



    his issue with stamina has to do with Bivol's pressure and pressure. he never let Canelo fight at his pace.

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  • ramses07
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    Originally posted by 3ProudLions View Post

    Preach brother I'm with you on this.

    First words I heard was bivol was to big so I added in the rest of the other problems canelo had.

    Stamina, footwork, composure, ring craft it all adds up.
    It’s not that Bivol is too big, it’s that he acclimated at weight

    he can show his skills, compsure etc comfortably at that weight

    canelo was just fighting at 160 not that long ago

    So going up in weight that much probably slowed him down and wore on his stamina

    his issues with stamina had kinda gone away

    but that’s really why weight classes exist not cause of size but how good u can really be at a particular weight

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  • 3ProudLions
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    Originally posted by P to the J View Post
    '...size, speed, and technique was far too much for the sport’s box office and pound-for-pound star.'


    Strange that Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Rocky Fielding, and Sergey Kovalev weren't too big, though they measure between 6'0 and 6'3", but Bivol who is also 6'0" was. What gave him a real advantage over Canelo was superior footwork, and boxing know-how, enabling him to either get out of range or use a perfect guard at precise moments.

    Being a bit taller is not even 10% of this story. Esp. bearing in mind that he did a lot of fighting in the pocket, and fights in a slightly crouched stance, thus giving up his height advantage, anyway.

    Bivol should take this fight at 168 to shut the boxing media up; a class who are increasingly persuading me that thye know not a lot about the sport they're reporting on.


    And yes, I do need to get a life, and drop this insane crusade to ensure Bivol gets the credit he deserves. But no, I don't think I'm going to.
    Preach brother I'm with you on this.

    First words I heard was bivol was to big so I added in the rest of the other problems canelo had.

    Stamina, footwork, composure, ring craft it all adds up.
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  • VashDBasher
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    Originally posted by jockpunk View Post

    Just being taller than someone doesn't mean you are bigger. Ryan Garcia is 5'10. Is he bigger than canelo too?
    Terrible comparison. All the guys that I’ve mentioned fight at the same weight class or close to it. Garcia’s a lightweight so obviously he’s not as big as Canelo.
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  • Get em up
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    Originally posted by P to the J View Post
    '...size, speed, and technique was far too much for the sport’s box office and pound-for-pound star.'


    Strange that Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Rocky Fielding, and Sergey Kovalev weren't too big, though they measure between 6'0 and 6'3", but Bivol who is also 6'0" was. What gave him a real advantage over Canelo was superior footwork, and boxing know-how, enabling him to either get out of range or use a perfect guard at precise moments.

    Being a bit taller is not even 10% of this story. Esp. bearing in mind that he did a lot of fighting in the pocket, and fights in a slightly crouched stance, thus giving up his height advantage, anyway.

    Bivol should take this fight at 168 to shut the boxing media up; a class who are increasingly persuading me that thye know not a lot about the sport they're reporting on.


    And yes, I do need to get a life, and drop this insane crusade to ensure Bivol gets the credit he deserves. But no, I don't think I'm going to.
    I feel like more than anything Bivol stuck to his game plan and didnt allow Canelo to pull him out of it. I 100 percent agree size was a small factor in the fight.
    P to the J P to the J Sayithowitisuk Bob like this.

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  • jockpunk
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    Originally posted by VashDBasher View Post

    Very well said. Callum Smith is 6’3” and Plant is 6’2”. Heck, Kovalev is the same height as Bivol at 6’. The difference between them and Bivol is that Bivol has superior abilities and a better ring IQ.
    Just being taller than someone doesn't mean you are bigger. Ryan Garcia is 5'10. Is he bigger than canelo too?

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