Comments Thread For: Bivol on Canelo's Strategy: It's a Good Trick To Hit Your Arm, But You Can't Get a Knockout'

[P to the J]

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Thank you.

I mean after maybe the 8-9 ninth round of getting constantly punished by the same arm Alvarez was are trying to break you would think anyone with any sense would abandoned that failed strategy.

Saul Alvarez did not fight up to his elite Ring-IQ, he seemed to be in shock and in denial that he was being dominated, often with ease. It was embarrassing, I dont know how his ego will handle being washed. :lol1


Must have been in shock, but then I’m not surprised, considering his winning run. This guy’s not had to make too many in-ring adjustments since Floyd (the Las Vegas judges allowed him to go away and think after GGG1).

The only fight since GGG 2 I can think of where he’s had to solve a bit of a problem is against BJS, with his erratic movement, where Canelo finally stumbled on firing off some hard body shots; albeit, it was at BJS’ face, which was stooped lower than Donald Rumsfeld’s soul.

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Thank you.

I mean after maybe the 8-9 ninth round of getting constantly punished by the same arm Alvarez was are trying to break you would think anyone with any sense would abandoned that failed strategy.

Saul Alvarez did not fight up to his elite Ring-IQ, he seemed to be in shock and in denial that he was being dominated, often with ease. It was embarrassing, I dont know how his ego will handle being washed. :lol1


Must have been in shock, but then I’m not surprised, considering his winning run. This guy’s not had to make too many in-ring adjustments since Floyd (the Las Vegas judges allowed him to go away and think after GGG1).

The only fight since GGG 2 I can think of where he’s had to solve a bit of a problem is against BJS, with his erratic movement, where Canelo finally stumbled on firing off some hard body shots; albeit, it was at BJS’ face, which was stooped lower than Donald Rumsfeld’s soul.

We remember your reference of the counter that changed the fight in round 8.

From what I recall about Saunders : many fans said that Billy Joe's slick footwork was going to be an issue ( Like Lara ), I guess they failed to notice that Lara employed more evasive techniques in the pocket and could block and roll with punches better than Billy.



Dimitry '' upset'' win can be examined to learn even more effective strategies against Canelo, unfortunately for most in the sport they lack certain attributes to exploit these holes. As noted by many others, that if you can take Alvarez punches -- which is a great risk, and force him to constantly work, you will diminish his capabilities dramatically.

Easier said than done, to be able to trade with Saul, counter his counters, and out-think him, takes a great deal of mental and physical fortitude, well beyond what most are capable of.

Perhaps Dimtry Bivol would of not been able to be successful if Alvarez was a natural 175 pounder, perhaps Nelo would of broke Dimitry's arm. How much did the difference in weight help? Who knows, but I'm sure it did factor, all that fat and meat around a bigger man helps absorb strikes.

[P to the J]

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We remember your reference of the counter that changed the fight in round 8.

From what I recall about Saunders : many fans said that Billy Joe's slick footwork was going to be an issue ( Like Lara ), I guess they failed to notice that Lara employed more evasive techniques in the pocket and could block and roll with punches better than Billy.



Dimitry '' upset'' win can be examined to learn even more effective strategies against Canelo, unfortunately for most in the sport they lack certain attributes to exploit these holes. As noted by many others, that if you can take Alvarez punches -- which is a great risk, and force him to constantly work, you will diminish his capabilities dramatically.

Easier said than done, to be able to trade with Saul, counter his counters, and out-think him, takes a great deal of mental and physical fortitude, well beyond what most are capable of.

Perhaps Dimtry Bivol would of not been able to be successful if Alvarez was a natural 175 pounder, perhaps Nelo would of broke Dimitry's arm. How much did the difference in weight help? Who knows, but I'm sure it did factor, all that fat and meat around a bigger man helps absorb strikes.

Amazes me, really. You get onto boxing scene and you find a random guy like yourself breaking down key moments in the fight, with slomo clips, and explaining quite effectively where this or any other bout is won or lost.

OTOH, the entire boxing press, who get mother ****ing paid to inform the public about boxing, can just scrawl SIZE in big, **** off letters all over their dog **** article, leaving the average Joe (or Joan), who watches few fights, to go away thinking you can just walk into a ring and outmuscle a smaller guy.

I mean, take that Fitzsimmons guy: he picked Canelo to win, obviously got it wrong, but in explaining why, he has no answers apart from SIZE. Well no wonder he screwed his prediction!

If I was a boxing journalist and handing in articles like these, while this site has a core of about 30-40 ppl explaining **** better for free, I’d be embarrassed to leave my house.

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Amazes me, really. You get onto boxing scene and you find a random guy like yourself breaking down key moments in the fight, with slomo clips, and explaining quite effectively where this or any other bout is won or lost.

OTOH, the entire boxing press, who get mother ****ing paid to inform the public about boxing, can just scrawl SIZE in big, **** off letters all over their dog **** article, leaving the average Joe (or Joan), who watches few fights, to go away thinking you can just walk into a ring and outmuscle a smaller guy.

I mean, take that Fitzsimmons guy: he picked Canelo to win, obviously got it wrong, but in explaining why, he has no answers apart from SIZE. Well no wonder he screwed his prediction!

If I was a boxing journalist and handing in articles like these, while this site has a core of about 30-40 ppl explaining **** better for free, I’d be embarrassed to leave my house.

I take notice of the quality posters PJ, you bring something to the table, you got da sauce. LMAO at your take on Lyle Fitzsimmons, hes a good troll tho. I expect a good rib on the public when I see his name in the articles, it gets the people going! I love to have his job.

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We remember your reference of the counter that changed the fight in round 8.

From what I recall about Saunders : many fans said that Billy Joe's slick footwork was going to be an issue ( Like Lara ), I guess they failed to notice that Lara employed more evasive techniques in the pocket and could block and roll with punches better than Billy.



Dimitry '' upset'' win can be examined to learn even more effective strategies against Canelo, unfortunately for most in the sport they lack certain attributes to exploit these holes. As noted by many others, that if you can take Alvarez punches -- which is a great risk, and force him to constantly work, you will diminish his capabilities dramatically.

Easier said than done, to be able to trade with Saul, counter his counters, and out-think him, takes a great deal of mental and physical fortitude, well beyond what most are capable of.

Perhaps Dimtry Bivol would of not been able to be successful if Alvarez was a natural 175 pounder, perhaps Nelo would of broke Dimitry's arm. How much did the difference in weight help? Who knows, but I'm sure it did factor, all that fat and meat around a bigger man helps absorb strikes.

Good stuff...Bivol pointing his arm to canelo like..not today my friend..not today Lol, really looking forward to see whats gonna happen on a eventual rematch and specially if its going to be 168 or 175

[YoungManRumble]

great tip Ellie, if only Peter could divulge such advice to Hughie, we might possibly see more 'shades of Ali'.
btw Nikita such demolished an undefeated fighter in his 2nd fight in the 1st round, and just claimed in the post fighter interview, 'its the blood, i love this brutality'. my goodness

This will sound crazy but he might have a higher ceiling than Tim. Seems more athletic and twitchier. Time will tell though.

[petero]

Thank you.

I mean after maybe the 8-9 ninth round of getting constantly punished by the same arm Alvarez was are trying to break you would think anyone with any sense would abandoned that failed strategy.

Saul Alvarez did not fight up to his elite Ring-IQ, he seemed to be in shock and in denial that he was being dominated, often with ease. It was embarrassing, I dont know how his ego will handle being washed.



Indeed, petero , should take my advice and pull Savanah Marshall out of her unification with the 'G.W.O.A.T'. Claressa is going to make Savanah Marshall look like bum, its going to be soo bad that Peter might lose his job.

I had no idea that Nikita fought yesterday. I just got done watching his second pro bout vs. Mason Smith, I was not impressed. When Nikita dropped Smith at 1.50 in the first round, I expected to see a brutal and clean finish -- It was not the case.

I heard Nikita finished school and graduated from University studies, he should put his education to good use ; leave the boxing to Tim Tszyu.

Yeah since you had your dramatic break-up with the Bronze Bum you found a new set of nuts to swing on, Tim Tszyu. Savanah will smash that smelly goat.