On paper, Terrence Crawford is the most overrated fighter in boxing

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  • Comanche
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    #21
    Im ok with the p4p title being vacant for now.

    Spence and Crawford will fight soon.

    And then we will know.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Comanche
      Im ok with the p4p title being vacant for now.

      Spence and Crawford will fight soon.

      And then we will know.
      And then when Usyk beats AJ a second time to defend his unified Heavyweight title after being undisputed cruiser champ? Will his claim be better than Crawford v Spence winner?

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        #23
        It is only since he moved up to welterweight has his resume, not been the best. But there is really nobody for him to fight. The divisions is not as strong as it once was etc.

        Eroll Spence Junior in comparison has fought stronger fighters at welter weight, or opponents when they were stronger. Spence Junior beat a way stronger Kell Brook & Shawn Porter than Crawford.

        I also think considering his circumstances Spence Junior win vs Danny Garcia is his best win in his entire career.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Rockybigblower

          I hope you use the same logic for Wlad...Calzaghe and GGG.
          Calzaghe fought 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5 in his entire career.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran

            And then when Usyk beats AJ a second time to defend his unified Heavyweight title after being undisputed cruiser champ? Will his claim be better than Crawford v Spence winner?
            Not to me. Usyk is great, no doubt. I respect AJ as a heavyweight, but not in the p4p sense. Pence and Crawford are in a different league then AJ skill wise.

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            • j0zef
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              #26
              Originally posted by Pac=Duran
              His resume is still awful despite the Porter win:

              -Home advantage in every fight
              Uhh.. how? Because he fought at home a couple of times just like everyone else?
              -home refs in every fight
              He's never needed refs, ever. You can't say he has "home refs" if he's dominated everyone he has fought.
              -home judges in every fight
              Same as above. He's never needed them, hence you have 0 proof this is true or false.
              -bigger than the vast majority of his opponents
              Wrong. He's in his 3rd division. He's 5'8". He's not Canelo fighting at Caneloweight and rehydrating 20-25 lbs.
              -house fighter in every fight
              Based on what? He's not even a huge draw, so you can't even claim "follow the money"

              You can try to discredit his resume, but this thread is just wrong on every level.

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #27
                Originally posted by hhh1200

                Spence and Charlo 2 undisputed fights can prove you correct. If he is over-rated, everyone would fight him, right. The problem is in sports skill recognizes skill. His opponents know what they are facing vs. the fanboys. It's like Andrade is doo doo but the whole division of 160 finds a way to not fight him. I mean you get to beat an undefeated Olympian and is easy money doo doo but you don't fight him? skill recognizes skill.
                Problem with Andrade though is he doesn’t help himself. He’s rejected fights with Jermell, Korobov and now Zhanibek who were all ranked top 10 at the time. He’s like the boy who cried wolf. Talented fighter no doubt but he has to take ownership have his terrible resume. His only top 10 wins are Vanes #7, Sulecki #9 and Williams #10. That’s simply not good enough.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Rockybigblower

                  I hope you use the same logic for Wlad...Calzaghe and GGG.
                  I do. All had/have good resumes.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage

                    Horn was #1 welterweight in the world and #5 P4P per BoxRec. Show respeck
                    Boxrec is trash. Their ratings are terrible. Ring and TBRB are the only legitimate ratings IMO.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Kzbox

                      All he has to do is fight/beat Spence then the tide will turn right now he doesn't have that solified win to make him top dog of the devision so until that gets sorted we can't say who is best. Hopefully they can get it done this year.
                      I’m optimistic it happens this year.

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