Would you fault Canelo for running away from a rematch and dropping back to 168?

[NachoMan]

It wasn't the size or weight that came into any serious impact with this fight, it was the simple case of someone being far too tricky for Canelo.

Ironically, someone like Beterbiev who seems the far more dangerous/scary fighter to go against would have suited Canelo more because he wouldn't have been hard to find. Bivol on the other hand seemed like a guy who was good, but very beatable. Obviously not the case now.

Not exactly, size was certainly a factor. If your plan is to power punch somebody into submission but you can't actually hurt them, then size is an issue. Conversely, if your opponent has spent his entire career at a weight 20lbs higher than your natural weight, they can generally hurt you a bit (which tempers your enthusiasm to exchange), which Bivol showed. Bivol was cautious about Canelo's power, but opened up after a while when he realized it wasn't anything special to him. Joe Smith Jr can crack a hell of a lot harder than Canelo.

[Floyd is TBE]

Canelo needs to man up and finish what he started. He's the same size as Bivol so he shouldn't be trying to flee down to a lower weight. But just imagine an supposed ATG running away like this with his tail between his legs. His legacy would be forever tarnished. But I can actually see Canelo running back down to 168. **** like that is why Canelo is not respected among Mexicans like Oscar was. If Canelo runs away it will prove he doesn't have the heart of a true Mexican.

[M Bison]

Not exactly, size was certainly a factor. If your plan is to power punch somebody into submission but you can't actually hurt them, then size is an issue. Conversely, if your opponent has spent his entire career at a weight 20lbs higher than your natural weight, they can generally hurt you a bit (which tempers your enthusiasm to exchange), which Bivol showed. Bivol was cautious about Canelo's power, but opened up after a while when he realized it wasn't anything special to him. Joe Smith Jr can crack a hell of a lot harder than Canelo.

His plan to power punch him into submission simply didn't work because he was landing off Bivols arms/guard, a lesser fighter with a leakier defence would have likely have been folded by Canelo or at least a more convincing case to say he won the fight would be made.

I don't really think Canelo was ever seriously hurt in that fight, he just struggled to land anything clean off a guy who was managing his reach advantage very well. It's not the first time we've seen Canelo swinging and missing.

I've always held the idea that Canelo has improved, but not to the extent that he would cleanly beat the Lara that schooled him or the Mayweather that schooled him, he just isn't good with fighters who are slippery.

[MONGOOSE66]

Well, Bivol said he would fight him at 168 so I can’t see why Canelo wouldn’t want to do it but he better come in with a far more unique game plan. I don’t think Canelo can beat him as is. He has to have the ability (few do) to change his style. That’s very hard to do.

[_Rexy_]

Not exactly, size was certainly a factor. If your plan is to power punch somebody into submission but you can't actually hurt them, then size is an issue. Conversely, if your opponent has spent his entire career at a weight 20lbs higher than your natural weight, they can generally hurt you a bit (which tempers your enthusiasm to exchange), which Bivol showed. Bivol was cautious about Canelo's power, but opened up after a while when he realized it wasn't anything special to him. Joe Smith Jr can crack a hell of a lot harder than Canelo.

We’re back to 155 again?

[just the facts]

Its rematch or nothing. Now that he knows what bivol brings he has try and Avenge it. There's no other option.

Did you see anything on Saturday night that leads you to believe Canelo could ever beat Bivol? Never mind, I forgot I was talking to the guy who posted “ most in the media had Canelo winning”.

[duranfanatic]

Canelo needs to man up and finish what he started. He's the same size as Bivol so he shouldn't be trying to flee down to a lower weight. But just imagine an supposed ATG running away like this with his tail between his legs. His legacy would be forever tarnished. But I can actually see Canelo running back down to 168. **** like that is why Canelo is not respected among Mexicans like Oscar was. If Canelo runs away it will prove he doesn't have the heart of a true Mexican.

Will be interesting to see what Canelo does in this situation.

[NachoMan]

His plan to power punch him into submission simply didn't work because he was landing off Bivols arms/guard, a lesser fighter with a leakier defence would have likely have been folded by Canelo or at least a more convincing case to say he won the fight would be made.

I don't really think Canelo was ever seriously hurt in that fight, he just struggled to land anything clean off a guy who was managing his reach advantage very well. It's not the first time we've seen Canelo swinging and missing.

I've always held the idea that Canelo has improved, but not to the extent that he would cleanly beat the Lara that schooled him or the Mayweather that schooled him, he just isn't good with fighters who are slippery.

I agree with that. I think Canelo absolutely demonstrated a ton of improvement since fighting Floyd in 2013, but I also think his recent success moving up has caused him to regress quite a lot. He's just become drunk with the perception of his own greatness that he thinks he's just going to steamroll everyone. As I've said in other posts, he fought much the same way in his last fight against Plant. The only difference is that Plant can't give or take a punch.

[Queen_Leia]

the problem is, he put a hydration clause on bivol at 175 so it's obvious that cut will do something do bivol just like dawson. Fight him at this weight or move on.

this is all cap!

[BoxingIsGreat]

Just retire and enjoy your money and family. Canelo is done. Good riddance.