How much bigger is Bivol than say... Caleb Plant?

[Ronn]

I think he’s possibly smaller than Plant too tbh.

Bivol doesn’t drain himself at all to make 175 IMO. That’s why his output is so good.

Plant and Clenelo are clearly naturally bigger than Russia Malignaggi

[BigZ44]

I think he’s possibly smaller than Plant too tbh.

Bivol doesn’t drain himself at all to make 175 IMO. That’s why his output is so good.

I'm really curious if fighters staying at lower weights for the size advantage are actually getting less return on investment compared to going up to a weight they are more comfortable at, but losing the height and reach advantages they carry. I'd like to see some kind of study about that

[Ronn]

I think when you said robot we all assumed the big stiff Euro robot archetype were all accustomed to seeing in the ring. Funny thing is now that some of the most dynamic fighters today are European like Usyk, Loma, and Bivol (Russian I know).

That dude is one loss away from being an actual Journeyman.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I'm really curious if fighters staying at lower weights for the size advantage are actually getting less return on investment compared to going up to a weight they are more comfortable at, but losing the height and reach advantages they carry. I'd like to see some kind of study about that

It’s an interesting point man. I’ve always felt if you’re skilled enough you don’t need to cut significant weight to gain a size advantage. Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo etc have all shown that. This is gonna be a massive generalisation but I feel the guys who need to strenuously cut weight to get an advantage are usually the lesser skilled fighters.

I think it depends on you’re style too really. If you’re a guy like Bivol who boxes and moves, it probably wouldn’t help you that much, it would probably lower your output. Meanwhile if you take a guy like Hurd who clearly drained himself to make 154, he’d get absolutely killed up at 168 with his style.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Plant and Clenelo are clearly naturally bigger than Russia Malignaggi

Who’s alt is this?

[Dakuwaqa]

Bivol looks denser boned to me.

Not a much of a difference though

[Boxing-1013]

I think when you said robot we all assumed the big stiff Euro robot archetype were all accustomed to seeing in the ring. Funny thing is now that some of the most dynamic fighters today are European like Usyk, Loma, and Bivol (Russian I know).

I just think it's odd that people assumed that - when I outlined what I meant by robot in the very next sentence. But I do understand that for some it has a negative connotation.

[MONGOOSE66]

Let's be real, as far as size goes Bivol isn't much bigger than most people Canelo has faced lately. He's smaller than Mundo. It wasn't all size that won him that fight.

7 pounds genius. It’s simple math.

[MONGOOSE66]

Let's be real, as far as size goes Bivol isn't much bigger than most people Canelo has faced lately. He's smaller than Mundo. It wasn't all size that won him that fight.

It’s not just about size or power. Watch the fight again and notice that Canelo COULD NOT HURT Bivol. Bivol was in their with a REAL power puncher in Smith. Canelo and is No Smith in terms of power. It is what it is. Just cause you don’t understand something. Don’t mean it’s not real.

[creekrat77]

Bivol is a small light heavyweight. I remember a while back he was talking about wanting fights at 168. I think clearly Bivol is built more durable like Golovkin versus Plant