No other fighters are taking risks like Canelo, Usyk and Lomachenko

[stuff jones]

Tank risks his career to the long arm of the law pretty regularly.

[TernceBudCharlo]

"Moving up 3 weight classes to chase Spence"

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



-Kev- is right. This has to be a parody account.

How is that a lie? He moved up from 135 to 140 to 147 and has been calling out spence constantly.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Little Gamboa almost put Crawford to bed. And unknown and mediocre Kavaliouskous made Crawford look like Bambi. Both of them did.

I have nothing bad to say about Spence, he has actually fought prime top 10 fighters when he was supposed to. He didn’t hide behind Al Haymon taking on piss poor opponents like Crawford did.

Spence vs Crawford says more about Spence than it does about Crawford. It shows Spence consistently tries to fight the best.

Crawford is just doing it because he knows Spence is damaged goods. The least he can do is beat Spence, who has said his time in boxing is short.

Props to Crawford for picking good names at the right time. Brook and Khan, good names, but unranked in the top 10 of any weight class. Jeff Horn, good name via robbery over Pacquiao. Spence, good name, but essentially admitted to being damaged goods in an interview for Ugas pre-fight.

You really have an agenda man.

[landotter]

I honestly do not always get these threads. Not comparing resumes, that is fine. That is what a boxing thread is for. But at SOME point, loss, wins, or controversial decisions, a fighter has either shown he will challenge himself in some way or hasn't.

Canelo has shown at least the desire to test himself. He jumps around from division to division in a way I do not think anyone has since the golden age before TV. That shows serious self discipline and focus on the sport. Those are risks. So 168 does not have a ton of talent? So what? Other 160 fighters could have moved up and haven't, or have and gotten zero traction in that easy division. In-between, he jumped to 175 twice. Those are risks,

Sure, his resume is not perfect. So what? No ones is. His is good. In this day and age of easy money on streaming services, good is freaking impressive.

[-Kev-]

That's fair.

But I'd say the Klitschko fight and the first Wilder fight are by far bigger risks than any of the others have taken.

You think 6’9” 250-270lb Fury, who campaigns at Heavyweight, taking on 6’6” Wlad and 6’6” Wilder are bigger risks than Usyk, a career Cruiserweight taking on the #1 ranked, career-Heavyweight Anthony Joshua and a blown up Middleweight Canelo taking on #2 ranked Bivol at 175?

Aren’t fighters who campaign in a weight class for their whole career supposed to fight the best fighters of their weight class? I mean that is the least they can do, don’t you think?

For example, the least Canelo could do at 154 was to fight Mayweather, Trout and Lara. The least he could do at Middleweight was fight GGG, Cotto and Jacobs. Etc. After that, we are talking about over-achieving. Callum Smith was an overachievement imo. Fighting Bivol at 175 was an overachievement. I thought beating the #2 Ring 175 fighter Sergey Kovalev was an over achievement as well. Despite Kovalev’s age and being past prime which is no different from Fury fighting a 40 year old past prime Klitschko.

There is absolutely an argument that Bivol for Canelo is a far higher risk than Wilder was for Fury. I mean we are talking about a guy who is highly skilled, moves like a Middleweight and was 270lbs and 6’9”.

You predicted Bivol would beat Canelo. How much of your prediction was based on Bivol’s sheet size to skill ratio? Would you feel as confident picking Bivol over Canelo if they were both 5’8” and the same weight at fight night? Let’s both are 180lbs and 5’8”. Would you still choose Bivol? Did Bivol’s height, weight (and time at weight class) and reach advantage play a part in you picking him over Canelo?

[TreyShaw]

Tank risks his career to the long arm of the law pretty regularly.

Hahhahaaha

[-Kev-]

"Moving up 3 weight classes to chase Spence"

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



-Kev- is right. This has to be a parody account.

I am telling you. It is a parody account. I suspected this a long time ago. It is kind of obvious, but sometimes he hides it well. But look at his username. And then he hyping up Crawford’s wins over Brook and Khan, who were both clearly shot and not even in any publication’s top 10 at 147-160. Hyping up Porter as having “hanged in there” with elite P4P fighters, when he only had fought 1 (Errol Spence), and had losses to Brook, draw with Julio Diaz that should have been an L, and should have had an L vs Ugas.

Now this about chasing Spence by moving up 3 weight classes. It’s a parody account. That username is a parody name. Who ever that is, is most likely a PBC hater trying to make that fanbase look ******.

Sadly, he is doing a great job, because he actually has PBC fans agreeing with everything he is saying.

TerenceBudCharlo, if you are a parody account, PM with your real username. I will not tell anyone, I just want to give your OG account props for that. I mean you are clearly trolling PBC fans and it flies way over their head. That is legendary trolling right there.

[sicko]

Technically no fighters should be disrespected but I notice particularly on this forum, guys only want to have sympathy for fighters when their guy lose

However, a lot of you are the same guys who not even months or weeks ago was doing the same thing to another fighter you wasn't a fan of, however now that your guy lost now you want "Peace" and "Sympathy"

Lets try respecting ALL FIGHTERS for having the BALLS to step in that ring. They're ALL Taking Risk every time they get in that Ring regardless of Opponent because anything can happen in that Ring. Boxing has a very OLD Demographic so these are men who are like 35 and up acting like Teen Girls who are emotionally attached to their Favorite Pop Singer

[-Kev-]

Facts:

If you want to be the best, you have to gun for the best at the weight class you campaign in.

At 154, the best, according to The Ring and TBRB, when Canelo was there…were Mayweather, Trout, Lara and Cotto. Okay Canelo fought 3 of those 4.

At 160, when Canelo first went up there, the best were GGG, Cotto and Jacobs. Canelo fought all 3, GGG twice.

At 168, The Ring champion there was Callum Smith. Now at this point, I am going around saying I think Canelo is biting off more than he could chew. I said I think Callum Smith might win. Okay, Canelo somehow won, I was wrong.

From THAT^ point on, Canelo was overachieving. He was already doing a lot. Fighting Bivol, Kovalev, Plant, Saunders, is already doing way more than he has to do in order to secure a HOF career. Way more. Unnecessary. Attempting to beat Bivol is Canelo trying to be more than just a Hall of Famer. The guy clearly wants to be listed with the best, the Ali’s, SRR’s, Duran, SRL, Chavez, etc. Because Arturo Gatti, Barry McGuigan and Naseem Hamed are hall of famers. That’s not saying much. The guy wants to be a legend of his time. Even if Canelo forego’s the Bivol rematch and goes down to 168 and cleans it out, he would still being doing more than he has to.

It’s too bad that his critics are so loud and that not every boxing fan gives him credit for the risks he takes. But that’s boxing and that is why boxing is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to sports. Its fans are extremely unreasonable and don’t even understand what is risk and what is taking it easy.

[Pac=Duran]

True they are legends tbh. **** businessmen tbh lol