No other fighters are taking risks like Canelo, Usyk and Lomachenko

[Hype job]

Lets make a thread about Mike Tyson, how many fighters were bigger than him.

Why are you telling me this? And were they really bigger than him?

Why are you speaking of Alvarez as if, he was some genuine Welter Weight?

Do you honestly think Alvarez was the same size as Mayweather?

Alvarez has always been a middle-weight, posing as a welterweight early on in his career 'Everyone knows this'.

Everyone knows that being the big man on fight night, was part of his game at Welter Weight.

I seriously have no idea why you are trying to make out, Alvarez is some undersized fighter. The man is a dense, stocky, sturdy fighter 'That is his body type'.

I am not saying he does not take risks, because he does. But some of the things you are saying here, are exaggerated.

How can a middleweight pose as a welterweight on fight night? LMFAO.

I'm not making him out to be this super small guy. And yes of course he's bigger than Floyd.

But he's not a big middleweight, let alone a big super middle. He's a tiny light heavyweight and has no business there.

Who else currently fighting has taken fights in a division where they clearly do not belong?

[TernceBudCharlo]

So a shot fighter giving another shot fighter an ass whooping somehow makes him…unshot?

Brook beating Khan has nothing to do with anything. It makes zero sense.

When Crawford fought Khan, Khan hadn’t beaten a top 10 fighter in 4 years. It was even worse when Brook fought him so idk what hell you are talking about Brook and Khan. You are just digging yourself a hole. I am embarrassed for you for bringing up Brook and Khan as some good wins for Crawford. That’s shameful. It almost looks like you are a Crawford hater using satire.

Keep talking ****, that's all I gotta say. When Terence beats Spence this fall we can revisit this convo then.

[-Kev-]

Callum Smith lost to John Ryder, Caleb plant fought NOBODY respectable and was getting pieced up by damn Truax at the end of the fight, and Saunders was a guy who cheated his way to bailing out of the Demetrius Andrade fight. And arguably lost to Willie Monroe.

Yeah, epic resume right there...

Prime Shawn Porter lost to Julio Diaz, prime Kell Brook and Yordenis Ugas. Kavaliouskas fought NOBODY respectable and got destroyed by a green Vergil Ortiz. And Jeff Horn got his ass nearly killed by Pacquiao but his hometown cheated Pacquiao out of a win. The guy went from the ref wanting to stop him from fighting to somehow winning 115-113.

Yeah, epic resume right there…

[TernceBudCharlo]

Prime Shawn Porter lost to Julio Diaz, prime Kell Brook and Yordenis Ugas. Kavaliouskas fought NOBODY respectable and got destroyed by a green Vergil Ortiz. And Jeff Horn got his ass nearly killed by Pacquiao but his hometown cheated Pacquiao out of a win. The guy went from the ref wanting to stop him from fighting to somehow winning 115-113.

Yeah, epic resume right there…

I never mentioned Jeff Horn I thought judges are experts and never get it wrong? Or does that rule only apply to Canelo? There are so many rules that only apply to canelo that this is starting to get too confusing for me.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Prime Shawn Porter lost to Julio Diaz, prime Kell Brook and Yordenis Ugas. Kavaliouskas fought NOBODY respectable and got destroyed by a green Vergil Ortiz. And Jeff Horn got his ass nearly killed by Pacquiao but his hometown cheated Pacquiao out of a win. The guy went from the ref wanting to stop him from fighting to somehow winning 115-113.

Yeah, epic resume right there…

Porter has proven time and time again he can Hang with elite p4p opponents. The same can't be said for anyone on Canelo's resume that he dominated or stopped.

[The Big Dunn]

No other fighters are consistently taking risks like Canelo, Usyk and Lomachenko.

Critics of these fighters is why boxing is at the bottom of all sports. Fighters who are doing big things for the sport get hated on. Those who take risks and fight the best consistently. These guys are hated on and not given any credit for what they do.

I remember when Usyk beat AJ, all critics can talk about is how overrated AJ is, instead of talking about how great Usyk is.

It’s the same BS every time. Either sh/t on the loser or sh/t on the winner.

I see fans using this loss to Bivol, to talk about how Canelo would have also lost to Andrade, Benavidez, and Charlo.

Well damn. That’s all you have to do to rack up L’s? So all Canelo had to do in his career is fight Dmitry Bivol and his entire career could have been judged based on that.

Bivol beat Canelo, now everyone and their mother’s can. The most amusing part is that Bivol, who clearly beat Canelo by outlanding him with the better power punches, is somehow proof that Trout, Lara, GGG all beat Canelo. Like it re-affirmed those “robberies”…as if Trout, Lara and GGG did anything remotely close to what Bivol did. No where near what he did.

Kev, Canelo lost to a 5-1 underdog. Loma to a 7-1 underdog. The fights They won before were worse underdogs than this.

when you lose to such big underdogs the narrative shouldn’t be about taking risks.

Maybe it’s just me, but 5-1 and 7-1 favorites are “risks” only because the previous opponents were 12-1 and 15-1 underdogs.

A 50/50 or 55/45 fight is more of a “risk” imo.

Canelo and Loma kinda folded. It happens. Maybe they were overconfident.

They deserve credit for fighting top opponents for sure. Let’s not act like there isn’t some easy ones sprinkled in.

[-Kev-]

Keep talking ****, that's all I gotta say. When Terence beats Spence this fall we can revisit this convo then.

What? Crawford can beat Spence. Who the hell is arguing about Crawford vs Spence? Seriously, who is discussing Crawford vs Spence other than you?

So your 35 year old hero has decided to finally fight good fighters after 10 years of hiding behind Bob Arum and you want everyone to bow down to him?

What a coincidence that Terence Crawford grew some balls right after finding out that Errol Spence face is so damaged he couldn’t even be cleared to fight old man Pacquiao.

Now that Errol Spence is damaged goods, and even admitted that he does not have much time left in boxing due to the car accident, now Crawford is all over him. Before the crash it was “I don’t need Spence.” Now that Spence is damaged goods: Crawford “Bring on Errol Spence!”.

Wow, what a tough guy he is showing us he is. What an amazing resume.

Lmfao. You’ll see when he fights Spence this fall! Oh man, he is definitely showing us how many risks he takes!

[TernceBudCharlo]

Let's just put this to bed once and for all. If Canelo, Usyk, Loma were all the same size as Spence, Crawford, Shakur Stevenson, does anyone actually give those 3 a chance to win?

[-Kev-]

Porter has proven time and time again he can Hang with elite p4p opponents. The same can't be said for anyone on Canelo's resume that he dominated or stopped.

Who are these elite P4P fighters you speak of? He fought 1 before Crawford. Who else are you talking about?

[IronDanHamza]

Not as consistently. Tyson Fury’s very few good wins have been huge wins for his career. Klitschko, Wilder and Whyte. Excellent wins, but very few and far in between.

3 years between the Klitschko and Wilder fight. Another 2 years to fight Wilder again.

From the Wilder trilogy to the Whyte fight, that is the most consistent I have seen Fury fighting top 10 fighters. And now he is retiring, supposedly.

When I mention Canelo and Usyk, I am talking about consistency. Usyk cleaned out Cruiserweight and now picked up 3 belts at Heavyweight.

Canelo became Ring champ at 160 and 168. From 154 to 175, from age 21 to age 31, Canelo fought 14 fighters in The Ring’s top 10.

That's fair.

But I'd say the Klitschko fight and the first Wilder fight are by far bigger risks than any of the others have taken.