Cleneloterol should really be 54-7

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  • War Room
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    #1

    Cleneloterol should really be 54-7

    Not that impressive now is it?
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    #2
    He lost to Floyd, Bivol, GGG twice, and MAYBE Lara. That's it.

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      #3
      56-4-1

      We can debate on Lara all day as #4 but compubox had him clearly winning. Deciding factor was a judge right out of Mexico.

      He dog walked GGG II but did not win the 1st fight fighting negatively as he did.

      Depends on how you look at the open scoring vs Trout. That could have been a draw.

      At worst 57-3-1

      He is not as good as Usyk and Crawford.

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        #4
        Originally posted by famicommander
        He lost to Floyd, Bivol, GGG twice, and MAYBE Lara. That's it.
        Add Jacobs and Jorge Juarez.

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          #5
          Originally posted by hhh1200
          56-4-1

          We can debate on Lara all day as #4 but compubox had him clearly winning. Deciding factor was a judge right out of Mexico.

          He dog walked GGG II but did not win the 1st fight fighting negatively as he did.

          Depends on how you look at the open scoring vs Trout. That could have been a draw.

          At worst 57-3-1

          He is not as good as Usyk and Crawford.
          If by dog walk you mean, blowing your load in the 1st half of the fight and clearly losing the 2nd half then yeah he dogged walked him.

          The truth of the 2nd fight is that Canelo fought better and should have left with a personal victory for standing up to Golovkin. He still got his ass beat down the stretch and should have left with a 3rd loss that night.

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            #6
            Originally posted by famicommander
            He lost to Floyd, Bivol, GGG twice, and MAYBE Lara. That's it.
            Against GGG, Canelo definitely lost the first fight but Canelo won the second.

            he beat Lara.

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              #7
              Originally posted by hhh1200
              56-4-1

              We can debate on Lara all day as #4 but compubox had him clearly winning. Deciding factor was a judge right out of Mexico.

              He dog walked GGG II but did not win the 1st fight fighting negatively as he did.

              Depends on how you look at the open scoring vs Trout. That could have been a draw.

              At worst 57-3-1

              He is not as good as Usyk and Crawford.
              Compubox is garbage. Do your own counts and you'll see how far off their margins are ---> actually maybe don't count because If you scored G2 for Canelo, you don't know how to count.

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                #8
                Originally posted by famicommander
                He lost to Floyd, Bivol, GGG twice, and MAYBE Lara. That's it.
                I had him losing those fights too, and an argument can be made for Trout as well.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by abracada

                  Against GGG, Canelo definitely lost the first fight but Canelo won the second.

                  he beat Lara.
                  Jerry Roth is the best judge in boxing history and he scored it 115-113 for Lara.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by War Room

                    Compubox is garbage. Do your own counts and you'll see how far off their margins are ---> actually maybe don't count because If you scored G2 for Canelo, you don't know how to count.
                    i did my own count and canelo lost to lara. anyway, fmw's whole 147 career is based on compubox. now, y'all want to pretend it is trash.

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