Who had the more impressive win over Canelo? Mayweather or Bivol?

[just the facts]

Bivil win is better. Beat prime scary nelo. Only 19 fights and rather wet behind ears not much experience at highest level.
Floyd s win over nel o is mostly subject to ridicule and controversy

This douche bag never passes on an opportunity to make a dig at Floyd.

Face facts, Floyd EASILY beat your hero (Manny) and your undying man love will never change that. There’s not one CREDIBLE boxing historian, expert or publication that rates Manny top 3. Not one. Most don’t have him top 10.

[Henniger]

Bivol beat a prime at the height of his career Canelo. Mayweather beat a young green weight drained Canelo.

[mrpain81]

Bivol was a 4-1 dog, May was 3-1 favorite.

Mayweather was supposed to win, Bivol beat the P4P #1 as a big dog.

They aren't even close.

[Floyd is TBE]

Mayweather. He dominated Canelo, Floyd stood right in front of a prime Canelo and Canelo still couldn't do ****.

Bivol was alright, but he was basic. He threw the same predictable combos and punches over and over, but Canelo couldn't do anything because of the size difference. Honestly I walked away more disappointed in Canelo than impressed with Bivol. And I'm not trying to hate on Bivol because he did a fantastic job controlling the distance and landing his jab, but Canelo just aint at 175 fighter and it shows.

[hugh grant]

This douche bag never passes on an opportunity to make a dig at Floyd.

Face facts, Floyd EASILY beat your hero (Manny) and your undying man love will never change that. There’s not one CREDIBLE boxing historian, expert or publication that rates Manny top 3. Not one. Most don’t have him top 10.

Hey this thread about floyd why you bring Pac up?
I think bivol beating pfp no1 better than Floyd beating pfp no10 with a cw! CW can never be rewarded. Floyd already was already rewarded by keeping his zero, the cw did it's job. But don't then say its a great win.
It was a great performance by floyd, he did what he was supposed to do with a green drained nelo, did nelo even land 1 punch on floyd? But that's beside the point, it's not about who looked prettier and good like a poser? It's what was greater win. Getting unneccesary, manufacturered advantages like Floyd did with the CW, disqualifies Floyd win from being able to be deemed great. BIVol of course had height and weight advantages but they are natural advantages, which aren't bivols fault.

[Babadoux]

That’s a lie. Canelo has fought in 10 catchweights more than any fighter in his era. None of his fans should be talking about disadvantages

My statement was: "Canelo had to come in lighter than he was used to against Floyd" you said that's a lie because Canelo had fought in 10 catchweights... Canelo weighed in at 152 against Floyd at a time when he hadn't weighed in at 152 or less for more than 2 years. He looked terrible at the weigh in and never weighed in below 154 lbs after that, on the contrary he actually continued fighting at higher weights.

How many catch weights Canelo has fought in is completely irrelevant to my point. My point is that at the time he fought Floyd he was forced to fight at a weight that was extremely difficult for him to make, and that to me adds an asterisk to the win. Just because he weighed in at 153 1/2 in his previous fight against Trout does not mean he could make 152 easy. Maybe Floyd should have made the catchweight at 153 1/2, but he didn't.

[Amir Imam]

My statement was: "Canelo had to come in lighter than he was used to against Floyd" you said that's a lie because Canelo had fought in 10 catchweights... Canelo weighed in at 152 against Floyd at a time when he hadn't weighed in at 152 or less for more than 2 years. He looked terrible at the weigh in and never weighed in below 154 lbs after that, on the contrary he actually continued fighting at higher weights.

How many catch weights Canelo has fought in is completely irrelevant to my point. My point is that at the time he fought Floyd he was forced to fight at a weight that was extremely difficult for him to make, and that to me adds an asterisk to the win. Just because he weighed in at 153 1/2 in his previous fight against Trout does not mean he could make 152 easy. Maybe Floyd should have made the catchweight at 153 1/2, but he didn't.

I said that’s a lie because he weighed in under the 154 lb easily in his previous fight. His catchweights are relevant to your point as he’s the one who initiated the catchweight talk with the smaller older fighter Floyd. He challenged him at 150 and Floyd countered with 152lbs. Can’t blame the weight when he’s the one who picked it. They were so over confident prior to the fight. Then after the fight they had a million excuses. Did he not fight Cotto years later at 155lbs ANOTHER catchweight???

The internet doesn’t forget. He made weight two days in a row

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This is ridiculous for a champion.

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[Babadoux]

I said that’s a lie because he weighed in under the 154 lb easily in his previous fight. His catchweights are relevant to your point as he’s the one who initiated the catchweight talk with the smaller older fighter Floyd. He challenged him at 150 and Floyd countered with 152lbs. Can’t blame the weight when he’s the one who picked it. They were so over confident prior to the fight. Then after the fight they had a million excuses. Did he not fight Cotto years later at 155lbs ANOTHER catchweight???

The internet doesn’t forget. He made weight two days in a row

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This is ridiculous for a champion.

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You're either being intellectually dishonest or you're just repeating what others say about the issue.
Fighting below 154 (153 1/2 ) does not mean he can make 152 easy.

Canelo said he would be willing to fight Floyd at 150 years (if I'm remembering correctly) before the fight actually materialized (hint hint when he could actually make the weight!). Why would Floyd counter with a higher catchweight? To accommodate Canelo? You know that's not the case there was no way Canelo could make 150lbs so Floyd squeezed him down to 152lbs because that's as low Canelo would agree to go.

Pre fight quotes can be taken with a grain of salt, no fighter is going to say "making weight was terrible I hope I'm at my best tomorrow". That would obviously play into the opponent's favor.

Again, bringing up other catchweights is irrelevant. I don't have a problem with catchweights, Canelo agreed to it and now he has to live with the consequences. I'm just saying he had to fight Floyd at an uncomfortably low weight for him at the time and that puts an asterisk on the win for me. You can like it or not, but that's how it went down. Shouldn't bother you really, just go re-watch Canelo lose to Floyd or Bivol and feel better. My opinion still stands and is grounded on reality not fanaticism.

[STREET CLEANER]

Floyd made it look easy.

[KTFOKING]

Canelo is closer to peak form now than he was then but Bivol was also much bigger than Canelo while Floyd was much smaller than Canelo.

I'll say one thing, a lot of the flaws Canelo had against Floyd, they showed last night. He may have improved since then, but he has not improved THAT much.