Comments Thread For: Hearn Says Canelo-Spence Offer From PBC Smacks of 'Just Desperation'

[Rodtang]

You sure? Ever since he worked with Haymon in the early days of pbc he’s mentioned it, with a crescendo around 2018-2020 when pbc, Haymon, and pbc fighters were literally all he mentioned. What would have changed between now and then I ask?

Very sure. I'm talking about in recent weeks here and also specifically in Vegas this week. But what your getting at, is that they used to do business. Your correct. But PBC stopped working with Hearn when Matchroom USA was formed. Hearn didn't do any favours with the way he was brazen, admittedly, but that would make no real difference since PBC don't really work with other established promoters in the US in any case. So yeah. Very sure.

[Fist_ti_cuffs]

Canelo would bust the guy up.. very unlike pbc. They protect their guys

How in the hell are you protecting your fighters when you are offering more money than the other guy for consecutive bouts. Your blatant PBC hate is showing. SMH!!

[Oldskoolg]

Very sure. I'm talking about in recent weeks here and also specifically in Vegas this week. But what your getting at, is that they used to do business. Your correct. But PBC stopped working with Hearn when Matchroom USA was formed. Hearn didn't do any favours with the way he was brazen, admittedly, but that would make no real difference since PBC don't really work with other established promoters in the US in any case. So yeah. Very sure.

Oh do come along old boy….pbc has worked with top rank ms Queensbury…do I really need to refresh your memory on that? And remind me again how Costano became champion? And Rod, it wasn’t that Matchroom usa came into being on the USA, more boxing in America is a good thing….it’s the fact that Hearn wanted to put Haymon out of business by stealing pbc fighters, ridiculing them if they didn’t sign with him. You have no idea how that looks to Americans. The “empire” is long dead….

[Oldskoolg]

How in the hell are you protecting your fighters when you are offering more money than the other guy for consecutive bouts. Your blatant PBC hate is showing. SMH!!

Didn’t protect wilder from fury either, even after a totally one sided beating. Didn’t protect Spence from Brook either, didn’t protect Plant from Canelo and on and on. We know what time it is…

[Rodtang]

Oh do come along old boy….pbc has worked with top rank ms Queensbury…do I really need to refresh your memory on that? And remind me again how Costano became champion? And Rod, it wasn’t that Matchroom usa came into being on the USA, more boxing in America is a good thing….it’s the fact that Hearn wanted to put Haymon out of business by stealing pbc fighters, ridiculing them if they didn’t sign with him. You have no idea how that looks to Americans. The “empire” is long dead….

Castano is a PBC fighter. But he was a mandatory challenger. That's how he got his title. The Golden boy fighter had no choice. PBC champions dont do voluntary defences against non PBC fighters. That's a fact. I've explained all this to you before ,old. The only reasonably recent one they done was Wilder,Fury. If he'd been Top Rank initially that first fight would never have been offered. But he was just Queensberry at the time, and off a long layoff, still considered out of shape, with apparent lack of power and had been on the mat a few times. They needed a bigger payday for Wilder in light of his pittance against Ortiz, and rejection off Joshua offers, and thought they'd found their mark. In short, cherrypick gone wrong. Tell me another voluntary defence for a PBC champion against a non PBC fighter.

[Rodtang]

Oh do come along old boy….pbc has worked with top rank ms Queensbury…do I really need to refresh your memory on that? And remind me again how Costano became champion? And Rod, it wasn’t that Matchroom usa came into being on the USA, more boxing in America is a good thing….it’s the fact that Hearn wanted to put Haymon out of business by stealing pbc fighters, ridiculing them if they didn’t sign with him. You have no idea how that looks to Americans. The “empire” is long dead….

Hearn didn't try to steal PBC fighter's. He only approached out of contract fighters. And did PBC not plunder GBP? Oh the irony of your statement lol.

[VislorTurlough]

Don’t see or hear PBC shills lately. Maybe in early days of PBC years back when they were putting on TONS of shows on free US tv. That was good for boxing fans. That’s ancient history tho. What I do see and hear right now almost hourly is Heariacs, on these boards either cuz Eddie pays them, or because oF embarrassing mid 20th century style nationalism. “Joshua carries the hopes and dreams of England on his back” type nonsense. That flag waving BS doesn’t work in USA sports cuz it’s a country or 320M people and they win big at events all the time. Also people in the Midwest won’t get a hard on for a New York area or LA fighter. So. We get these Hearn cheerleaders for low rent “talent” like Whyte, who never praise Fury, and have nothing to say about Joyce or Dubois etc. Pretty transparent these are Hearn shills.

[Oldskoolg]

Don’t see or hear PBC shills lately. Maybe in early days of PBC years back when they were putting on TONS of shows on free US tv. That was good for boxing fans. That’s ancient history tho. What I do see and hear right now almost hourly is Heariacs, on these boards either cuz Eddie pays them, or because oF embarrassing mid 20th century style nationalism. “Joshua carries the hopes and dreams of England on his back” type nonsense. That flag waving BS doesn’t work in USA sports cuz it’s a country or 320M people and they win big at events all the time. Also people in the Midwest won’t get a hard on for a New York area or LA fighter. So. We get these Hearn cheerleaders for low rent “talent” like Whyte, who never praise Fury, and have nothing to say about Joyce or Dubois etc. Pretty transparent these are Hearn shills.

This is what brutal honesty about the difference CDs between the usa and the U.K. looks like. Excellent post, political correctness and tongue holding be damned

[Oldskoolg]

Hearn didn't try to steal PBC fighter's. He only approached out of contract fighters. And did PBC not plunder GBP? Oh the irony of your statement lol.

Haymon isn’t a promoter, he’s a manager and advisor. There are Haymon managed fighters who have fought for Hearn, shall I name them?

[Oldskoolg]

Castano is a PBC fighter. But he was a mandatory challenger. That's how he got his title. The Golden boy fighter had no choice. PBC champions dont do voluntary defences against non PBC fighters. That's a fact. I've explained all this to you before ,old. The only reasonably recent one they done was Wilder,Fury. If he'd been Top Rank initially that first fight would never have been offered. But he was just Queensberry at the time, and off a long layoff, still considered out of shape, with apparent lack of power and had been on the mat a few times. They needed a bigger payday for Wilder in light of his pittance against Ortiz, and rejection off Joshua offers, and thought they'd found their mark. In short, cherrypick gone wrong. Tell me another voluntary defence for a PBC champion against a non PBC fighter.

Off the top of my head the first that comes to mind is Wilder vs Duhapaus to name one. Kameda vs McDonnell was a pbc fighter against a matchroom one. There’s two just based on spur of the moment memory. You can’t make excuses to nationalism’splain away pbc working to make wilder vs fury, No matter what type of splainin they made the fight. And what makes
aomeone a pbc fighter anyway? There are fighters who fight on pbc cards who are not even signed to management deals with Haymon or promotional deals with TGB. Your nationalist makes you biased lad