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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Originally posted by -Kev-

    Who should he fight in the top 10? Why not someone who is solid but outside of the top 10? Before fighting Porter, Crawford fought Khan and Brook, who were outside the top 10 at 147. Why can’t Benn do that?

    I think fans and media want to push every fighter to be a legend. But every fighter isn’t Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Mayweather fought Hernandez at 20-21 and the rest was history.

    But not every fighter develops at the same rate. Anything can happen when you fight a rugged veteran. Look at who David Benavidez lost to (imo) and got knocked down by, Ronald Gavril.

    Do you think Benn is ready to the best right now or do you think he has potential to get better? I saw flaws in him that he needs to correct before he fights the best fighters of the world.

    With that said, I am not necessarily a fan of Benn. It’s just common sense. Not every fighter has to be moved at the speed of light. Gennady Golovkin became ridiculously hyped up and developed a considerably big fanbase despite his first win over a top 10 fighter being at 30 years old.
    David Avanesyan would be the very logical option. Who is ranked #8.

    You've got Butaev who's just lost who's ranked #10.

    You've got Stanionis himself who's #7.

    There's 3 options in the Top 10 he should take. The glaringly obvious and logical one being Avanesyan. But from what it seems Benn doesn't want that fight.

    He's ranked in the Top 10 (#9), I'm of the opinion Top 10 ranked guys should be fighting other Top 10 ranked guys. So far he's fought zero and I have no interest in seeing Top 10 ranked fighters fighting guys outside of the Top 20 like Van Heerden and the likes.

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    • RoadMan94
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      #12
      Young Edward contradicts himself all the time. First of all, He has repeatedly claimed Benn is a superstar and a mega draw in England. If that’s the case, he’d surely sell much more than 5K tickets against Stanionis?

      Eddie said Conor is the money fight outside of Spence / Crawford. It’s amazing how they sold tickets to Benn v Van Heerden but won’t with stanionis.

      Lmfao. The Matchroom blueprint of can crushing opponents and confidence farming against shot fighters.

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      • sicko
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        #13
        Absolutely Eddie is moving him wisely and won't dare take a chance like they did with Josh Kelly and when they threw him in with Avanesyan

        Eddie can only protect him for so long, at some point Son Of A Legend Or Not, fans are going to see him in with the best. 147 is so LOADED, it is going to be hard to continue to Cherry Pick and not have it Backfire and he end up losing to someone most think he shouldn't

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        • Oldskoolg
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          #14
          I mean really….is anyone surprised? No way young Edward puts his new cash cow in with someone who mops the floor with him

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          • -Kev-
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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            David Avanesyan would be the very logical option. Who is ranked #8.

            You've got Butaev who's just lost who's ranked #10.

            You've got Stanionis himself who's #7.

            There's 3 options in the Top 10 he should take. The glaringly obvious and logical one being Avanesyan. But from what it seems Benn doesn't want that fight.

            He's ranked in the Top 10 (#9), I'm of the opinion Top 10 ranked guys should be fighting other Top 10 ranked guys. So far he's fought zero and I have no interest in seeing Top 10 ranked fighters fighting guys outside of the Top 20 like Van Heerden and the likes.
            Benn doesn’t belong in the top 10 yet, and he did not place himself there.

            You know a ton of boxing history, I assume from your posts. What level of fighters were the legends of the past, with 100+ pro fights, fighting in order to become the fully developed top fighters they went on to be?

            Boxers nowadays don’t get developed like they should.

            Eastern Europe produces pros with 200-300 amateur fights. They are developed properly. To make up for not having that much development, fighters of the West need more fights vs tomato cans, monthly, no matter how high The Ring ranks them.

            Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 pro fights. Approximately 50 bouts were vs fighters with 20 or more losses. Approximately 25 bouts vs fighters with a losing record. Nothing wrong with that due to the frequency he fought in and the fact that SRR often fought multiple times per month. He was developed properly.

            That’s what Western boxing needs to go back to. Not this 20-0 fighters being hyped up as top 10 fighters of a division without beating a top 10 fighter. It is not Benn’s fault that the media ranks him that highly.

            You should want to watch a fighter based on what YOU think of his skills and where he is at developmentally. I think Conor Benn vs Kell Brook would be an excellent fight for Benn right now.



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            • -Kev-
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              #16
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg
              I mean really….is anyone surprised? No way young Edward puts his new cash cow in with someone who mops the floor with him
              Honest question here: Who has Stanionis mop the floor with so far?

              I have not seen him mop the floor with any notable fighter yet. Butaev? Dulorme? Who did he mop the floor with?

              If he can really mop the floor with Benn, that speaks volumes as to how unprepared and how bad Benn is as a fighter right now. This guy couldn’t mop the floor with Dulorme but he would somehow destroy Conor Benn? That makes Benn a really, really bad fighter who should have zero attention then.

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              • hhh1200
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                #17
                Nobody cares what he thinks or wants. 200, 140 x 2, 154, 135 are or about to be consolidated. 147 has been a joke since 2016 when fmw tried to get thurman to fight spence. that's 6 years. there is no excuse for spence and crawford not to happen.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev-

                  Benn doesn’t belong in the top 10 yet, and he did not place himself there.

                  You know a ton of boxing history, I assume from your posts. What level of fighters were the legends of the past, with 100+ pro fights, fighting in order to become the fully developed top fighters they went on to be?

                  Boxers nowadays don’t get developed like they should.

                  Eastern Europe produces pros with 200-300 amateur fights. They are developed properly. To make up for not having that much development, fighters of the West need more fights vs tomato cans, monthly, no matter how high The Ring ranks them.

                  Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 pro fights. Approximately 50 bouts were vs fighters with 20 or more losses. Approximately 25 bouts vs fighters with a losing record. Nothing wrong with that due to the frequency he fought in and the fact that SRR often fought multiple times per month. He was developed properly.

                  That’s what Western boxing needs to go back to. Not this 20-0 fighters being hyped up as top 10 fighters of a division without beating a top 10 fighter. It is not Benn’s fault that the media ranks him that highly.

                  You should want to watch a fighter based on what YOU think of his skills and where he is at developmentally. I think Conor Benn vs Kell Brook would be an excellent fight for Benn right now.


                  That was mainly due to the fact that they got paid so little so fought weekly/fortnightly vs whoever they could to make a little cash between world title fights etc.

                  Different era than today where fighters fight every 6 months for big money.

                  I’d take the Kell Brook fight for Benn, that’s logical despite Brook being unranked currently.

                  But the fight that makes the absolute most sense is David Avanesyan. He’s #8, Benn is #9, that’s a winnable fight for Benn (but also risky) and would be a good gauge to see where he can go.

                  Bare in mind when Avanesyan fought Josh Kelly, Benn was set to fight the winner, who they expected to be Kelly. He then changed his tune Kelly once lost.
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 05-05-2022, 09:49 AM.

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