If AJ beats Usyk will the win ring hollow given the circumstances?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Earl-Hickey
    Banned
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Nov 2009
    • 29031
    • 2,832
    • 1,384
    • 297,750

    #11
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Your being harsh. Josh lost worse to ruiz and overturned it so I think Josh can win.But
    ​Id give Josh credit for win as he is being written off
    20% I think is fair tbh, maybe 25%

    Its 1 in 4 or 5

    Joshua has the physical ability to win but his mentality is the issue, and its not just a case of a quick change in game plan, mentally he's not looked right since Wlad, he got away with it vs lesser opponents, and Ruiz really helped his rematch tactics coming in so heavy.

    Usyk won't turn up overweight, he is going to be as good as last time, probably better, so AJ doesn't just have to do a bit better this time he's going to have to do a lot better, and mentally, of after a couple of rounds Usyk is out boxing him again, I think AJ will fall apart very quickly.

    Joshuas fanny farting about with his training set up was the nail in the coffin for me, he trialed with all these trainers then decided ahh **** it and just stuck with this Fernando guy, that is indicitive to me of him not caring enough. He should have cleaned house.

    The 20% chance I give AJ is the chance I think he has of landing a big shot early in the fight.
    Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 04-30-2022, 06:24 AM.

    Comment

    • Nash out
      BoxingScene Hall of Fame
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Nov 2018
      • 6150
      • 2,245
      • 1,853
      • 19,416

      #12
      Originally posted by BodyBagz
      Usyk will not defile himself with excuses should he lose.
      If his mind was esle where, he also wouldn't screw his fans over with being less than 100% prepared.

      The better man will win the fight.
      The Great Nash agrees. Viva la BodyBagz. Nash out.

      Comment

      • hugh grant
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Apr 2006
        • 30559
        • 2,202
        • 931
        • 105,596

        #13
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

        20% I think is fair tbh, maybe 25%

        Its 1 in 4 or 5

        Joshua has the physical ability to win but his mentality is the issue, and its not just a case of a quick change in game plan, mentally he's not looked right since Wlad, he got away with it vs lesser opponents, and Ruiz really helped his rematch tactics coming in so heavy.

        Usyk won't turn up overweight, he is going to be as good as last time, probably better, so AJ doesn't just have to do a bit better this time he's going to have to do a lot better, and mentally, of after a couple of rounds Usyk is out boxing him again, I think AJ will fall apart very quickly.

        Joshuas fanny farting about with his training set up was the nail in the coffin for me, he trialed with all these trainers then decided ahh **** it and just stuck with this Fernando guy, that is indicitive to me of him not caring enough. He should have cleaned house.

        The 20% chance I give AJ is the chance I think he has of landing a big shot early in the fight.
        Yes
        but I was just saying you think Josh loses, so if Josh were to cause upset, wouldn't that be good reason to give credit to josh?

        Comment

        • Earl-Hickey
          Banned
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Nov 2009
          • 29031
          • 2,832
          • 1,384
          • 297,750

          #14
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Yes
          but I was just saying you think Josh loses, so if Josh were to cause upset, wouldn't that be good reason to give credit to josh?
          Depends on the nature of the win, if its a dominant beating then yes, if its a razor tight questionable decision or a blind hail Mary when Usyk is miles up on the cards then I'll be less impressed.

          Comment

          • Apollo7
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jun 2016
            • 1834
            • 600
            • 982
            • 14,495

            #15
            I'm sure some people would use the situation to downplay a victory. Personally I don't do that. There are always distractions. You never know what people are going through behind closed doors. No excuses, give the winner their credit.

            Comment

            • dibzvincent143
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Mar 2009
              • 5343
              • 359
              • 204
              • 52,527

              #16
              Originally posted by hhh1200

              Show me one AJ fight with rigged cards like Canelo's whole career. His fights in general are judged fairly. If he wins, he put in the work. The only people who will be crying are the extreme Central Asian and Eastern European American fanboys who call all of these guys the greatest ever when they hear the last names. The happiest man on earth will be Fury b.c that 2-fight 200-million deal will be back on the table and he'll be running around saying the retirement thing was just a joke.
              Uhm. Where and when did i mention that he ever had one? I said full credit to him in response to TS unless he won via robbery, it’s just a scenario to choose from.

              Comment

              • Marchegiano
                Banned
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Aug 2010
                • 12208
                • 1,790
                • 2,307
                • 165,288

                #17


                No, fuck Joshua, he doesn't get credit for shit.

                Comment

                • BodyBagz
                  The Stuff Of Nightmares
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 29772
                  • 6,045
                  • 6,437
                  • 108,454

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Nash out

                  The Great Nash agrees. Viva la BodyBagz. Nash out.
                  #Nash4Mod


                  .

                  Comment

                  • Superbee
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 6033
                    • 866
                    • 763
                    • 31,928

                    #19
                    AJ won't ever beat Usyk...

                    /endthread

                    Comment

                    • 4truth
                      U can't handle the Truth
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 15278
                      • 4,152
                      • 1,672
                      • 197,686

                      #20
                      Full credit but full credit only puts them at 1-1.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP