Why is Whyte so susceptible to the uppercut

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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #21
    He says that he is strong but is very front foot heavy to a point that he is out of balance half of the time and falling on the other guy.
    Last edited by STREET CLEANER; 04-26-2022, 07:52 AM.

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    • elfag
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      #22
      the fury shot i dont think he saw it coming until it was too late, he was looking straight forward. fury had him looking at the jab

      If you see floyd slip cottos upper cuts he was watching cotto's body movement, cotto didnt lead it with a jab or anything to occupy floyd, he saw floyd leaning forward and thought he was available but he telegraphs the uppercut and floyd sees him dipping down and floyd is aware he is fulnerable to the uppercut so you get a slipped uppercut which is pretty crazy to see.
      Last edited by elfag; 04-25-2022, 08:46 PM.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #23
        Against Fury, Whyte made a really bad mistake.

        Before the uppercut landed, Whyte was stalking Fury and walking around the ring as if? He was walking through the front door to his house.

        I used this description, because Whyte was really square on and open. As if he was walking through the front door to his house etc.

        All the other uppercuts that have decked Fury, were actually well disguised or just punches thrown in the heat of the battle i.e The Joshua uppercut.

        I think Whyte will be very disappointed in the mistake he made against Fury. He has even come out and stated that he made a mistake.

        In all of his other fights, I don't think he made mistakes. He was just hit with well thought out punches.

        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-25-2022, 09:08 PM.

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        • YoungManRumble
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          #24
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          It’s his stance, he stands with his front foot facing forward rather than at an angle to slip and ride shots, so when he crouches or lowers his head to get inside/slip a jab he’s essentially stood square on. He’s never been taught the fundamentals.
          You could really see that in the first round in southpaw stance too. He stepped in with his right foot pointing completely straight and threw this wild overhand left bomb that missed by a mile.

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #25
            Originally posted by YoungManRumble

            You could really see that in the first round in southpaw stance too. He stepped in with his right foot pointing completely straight and threw this wild overhand left bomb that missed by a mile.
            Yeah it’s an obvious flaw he’s never corrected. He often looks unbalanced throwing his punches.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #26
              Originally posted by denium
              Considering how long Whyte has been preparing for this bout, he was absolutely awful.

              Best shape of his life doe.
              Whyte was being all matey matey during the press conference and weigh in, this was out of character.

              I picked Whyte to win via knock out, but as I have said before? I honestly just wanted to go against the status quo, and searched for a opportunity and theory.

              I will not do this again, I have no reason to go against my logic so intensely.

              I am most of the time 50% logic, 50% my own theories.

              It was a terrible effort from Whyte, he was also too heavy. Do you know if Whyte would of involved himself in the build up? I think he would of fought differently..

              It was not a good idea, avoiding Fury until fight night. Being in and around Fury, would of helped him.

              To tell you the truth, I think Whyte was spooked by the size of the occasion.

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              • Toffee
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                #27
                The issue isn't that it knocks him out. The three he got hit with would damage anyone.

                The issue is that he gets hit with those shots.

                Forget the Joshua one, he was already done. But the Povetkin and Fury shots he was doing the same thing. Throwing his shot and then dipping his head down because he's left himself square on with nowhere to move.

                It's a movement/positioning issue. I don't rate Fury as a thrower of uppercuts (except on himself) but it was clearly on during the fight. Whyte was dipping his head regularly.

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                • Marchegiano
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                  #28
                  Whyte's guard is lazy at best. Sometimes he brings is elbows in, sometimes he doesn't. It's a very, very basic, early level mistake that he just carries like RJJ pointing out his **** feet. A lot of the time his guard features wide-set elbows he doesn't bother to tuck in. I get that Fury's happened fast, Pov put him at an angle, and Joshua's was more a manhandling to open Whyte up but really none of them would have been so easy to pull off if Whyte kept a tighter or more conscious guard.

                  Watch a bit before he's KO'd then whatever you like. If you wanna see the KOs again have at it but my point is more in his boxing. Watch him, he flaps his elbows around like a chicken.

                  It's not usually that big an issue for the big guys because more big guys play the long game, but, Whyte's at least trying to be a huge version of Margarito. He uses a high guard and walks in close to do damage and there's nothing wrong with that if you actually have a guard worth half a **** like Margarito did.

                  Conversely, Because champ is good, even when Whyte's guard was tight then Fury just slipped behind the gloves to his head with hooks. So Whyte was getting battered either way, I think Fury just hooked him to get him to worry more about the side of his head than face so he could uppercut him.

                  Wilder was getting ate up by hooks every single time he threw up the high guard because his elbows were super tight. Reckon it's the whole point of Fury's false starts. He;s seeing where the hand go so when he does throw he'll just not throw there.

                  Joshua:
                  Legendary Boxing Highlights: Joshua vs Whyte - YouTube


                  Pov:
                  HIGHLIGHTS | Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - YouTube


                  Fury:
                  Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte Full Fight Highlights KO 2022 HD - YouTube


                  I'd also like to add, Povetkin was never very good.

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                  • kushking
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    Against Fury, Whyte made a really bad mistake.

                    Before the uppercut landed, Whyte was stalking Fury and walking around the ring as if? He was walking through the front door to his house.

                    I used this description, because Whyte was really square on and open. As if he was walking through the front door to his house etc.

                    All the other uppercuts that have decked Fury, were actually well disguised or just punches thrown in the heat of the battle i.e The Joshua uppercut.

                    I think Whyte will be very disappointed in the mistake he made against Fury. He has even come out and stated that he made a mistake.

                    In all of his other fights, I don't think he made mistakes. He was just hit with well thought out punches.
                    Whyte does that every single fight though,thats why he gets sparked by punchers. He squared up because he was ready to quit imho,he was already completely broken & demoralized completely,Fury does that

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