I just read some pity party thread, asking why people don't like Spence as a boxer

[Boxing-1013]

Let me ask all of those guys something - do you have a very similar opinion of Spence as a boxer compared to guys like Beterbiev or GGG?

If not, then you have your answer of why certain people support certain fighters, and you guys are part of the problem you're complaining about.

All 3 of those guys have had very similar amateur successes (Spence being the least successful of the 3), very similar pro successes (mostly dominant wins at 1 weight class), and very similar styles in the ring (relentless, big punching, hard working, pressure fighters with good fundamentals, easy enough to hit, but hard to hurt), and similar styles outside the ring (head down, not too much into the limelight).

And the one of the 3 with the most baggage on a personal level is Spence, with the drunk driving stuff and that crash. So I could understand how people were turned off from him from that.

I certainly was. It even affected how I viewed him as a fighter, he seemed like he was letting himself go. I even went from having him top 3-5 pfp and as a clear winner over Bud, to picking Crawford over him h2h in a span of about a year.

Absolutely ridiculous to see so many of the biggest haters on here, playing the victim and complaining about why people don't like Spence as a fighter. Yet they aren't fans at all of guys like AB and GGG who are very similar fighters...hmmm I wonder why.

Stop the pity party, or drop the bias yourselves. No one wants to read that sh.it.

[Roadblock]

They might not like Russians lol thats how fickle it can be , as I said its way more complicated than a ABC concept, we are talking about how humans think and how manipulated that process can be.

[Boxing-1013]

They might not like Russians lol thats how fickle it can be , as I said its way more complicated than a ABC concept, we are talking about how humans think and how manipulated that process can be.

Well I'm just asking all of you guys directly, who were in that thread - how do you feel about those 3 as fighters?

Because I have always viewed them very similarly, at least until Spence got hurt. I honestly am still hesitant to put him fully back up there because I am not completely confident in his punch resistance yet. Even those shots he took from Ugas, worried me. He looked vulnerable, moreso than I've seen with the other 2 guys at this time.

So I just want the opinions of all of those guys, if they really have questions about why people don't rate Spence. I can't see how anyone could rate those 3 guys very differently personally. I think an honest person could have 1 over the other 2 or vice versa, but in general they are very similar fighters in terms of styles and successes.

And if you are acknowledging that people can be manipulated, then that would translate over to the Spence stuff too.

I don't think most are manipulated though - most are just really insecure 'men' who root for their team and everyone else is the enemy. That's why they have way different opinions on similar fighters imo.

[Code Red]

The difference is Beterbiev nor Golovkin are the heir apparent to Mayweather, and when I say Mayweather (or Pac for that matter) I mean the biggest PPV, P4P star attraction in boxing. Spence is the fighter most likely to bring attention and excitement to boxing in America.

[Roadblock]

Well I'm just asking all of you guys directly, who were in that thread - how do you feel about those 3 as fighters?

Because I have always viewed them very similarly, at least until Spence got hurt. I honestly am still hesitant to put him fully back up there because I am not completely confident in his punch resistance yet. Even those shots he took from Ugas, worried me. He looked vulnerable, moreso than I've seen with the other 2 guys at this time.

So I just want the opinions of all of those guys, if they really have questions about why people don't rate Spence. I can't see how anyone could rate those 3 guys very differently personally. I think an honest person could have 1 over the other 2 or vice versa, but in general they are very similar fighters in terms of styles and successes.

And if you are acknowledging that people can be manipulated, then that would translate over to the Spence stuff too.

I don't think most are manipulated though - most are just really insecure 'men' who root for their team and everyone else is the enemy. That's why they have way different opinions on similar fighters imo.

I understand what you are trying to establish just don't think you can pigeonhole people's behavior like that, very few sporting fans actually understand their sport, which is why the marketing and likeability can override the on-field performance by a mile, we live in a plastic fake society, real is a rarity these days.

[Boxing-1013]

The difference is Beterbiev nor Golovkin are the heir apparent to Mayweather, and when I say Mayweather (or Pac for that matter) I mean there biggest PPV, P4P star attraction in boxing. Spence is the fighter most likely to bring attention and excitement to boxing in America.

Spence is 32 man. Canelo is younger than him so I don't really see the point about PPV star with him to be honest.

And that's not what I asked or what my point was - I'm asking you guys if you rate those 2 guys on the same level as Spence, mainly as fans of theirs?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Spence is 32 man. Canelo is younger than him so I don't really see the point about PPV star with him to be honest.

And that's not what I asked or what my point was - I'm asking you guys if you rate those 2 guys on the same level as Spence, mainly as fans of theirs?

Actually, that thread reminded me of Seinfeld's mom in one episode where she says who couldn't like my son. She was surprised to find out many didn't like him. I get your point. Your position on Spence about the crash I agree with as well.

However, it seems like you are alluding to Afro- American racism against GGG, Beterbiev, and other Eastern Euros. That could be true too. In the end, it cuts both ways.

[BodyBagz]

For me, it's usually super fans that make me hate the fighter.
GGG, Pac and Fury have the most hypocritical, double standard having, excuse making fans in all of sports.

Of the 3, I hate Pac the least.

GGG and Fury have absolutely shltty resumes
Pac has a few ''good'' wins under his belt.

[Boxing-1013]

Actually, that thread reminded me of Seinfeld's mom in one episode where she says who couldn't like my son. She was surprised to find out many didn't like him. I get your point. Your position on Spence about the crash I agree with as well.

However, it seems like you are alluding to Afro- American racism against GGG, Beterbiev, and other Eastern Euros. That could be true too. In the end, it cuts both ways.

100% cuts both ways. Absolutely ridiculous to be honest with you. My biggest surprise with this site, has been the very tribal lines for rating boxers. And that goes for every group really.

[Boxing-1013]

For me, it's usually super fans that make me hate the fighter.
GGG, Pac and Fury have the most hypocritical, double standard having, excuse making fans in all of sports.

Of the 3, I hate Pac the least.

GGG and Fury have absolutely shltty resumes
Pac has a few ''good'' wins under his belt.

I don't really see how anyone can hate on what Fury has done as a fighter. Travels everywhere, never at home, beat Wlad (if you want to call that a win; it was a very uneventful fight) and then the 3 Wilder fights were all very impressive in their own way.

I can't name too many HWs ever who would go 3-0-1 in those 4 fights.