I just read some pity party thread, asking why people don't like Spence as a boxer

[Dakuwaqa]

I like all the guys at WW.

So much talent.

[LeOoze]

I like Spence and Beterbiev. Fury too, but his fans suck

[PeepeePoopooMan]

It's safe to say the fanbase specifically on here make others "hate" the boxer they are rooting for. Which is ridiculous. How do you hate a boxer or anyone you haven't met? I mean unless it's someone like monzon or valero I don't hate any boxer.
From the ****y (broner, shields) to the roid abusers (froid, carnelo) or just plain having no character or egocentric (Crawford, khan).

[DaNeutral.]

I'm a fan of Errol Spence, I'm a fan of Terrence Crawford. If I believe Crawford wins its not because I hate Spence it's because I believe Crawford wins.

[BodyBagz]

I don't really see how anyone can hate on what Fury has done as a fighter. Travels everywhere, never at home, beat Wlad (if you want to call that a win; it was a very uneventful fight) and then the 3 Wilder fights were all very impressive in their own way.

I can't name too many HWs ever who would go 3-0-1 in those 4 fights.

He is sloppy and wins only due to his size advantages.
Can't blame any HW who has a terrible resume because this is an absolutely abysmal HW era.

His fans are atrocious.
Saying he's the ATG.
Mocking everyone's resume when his is the weakest.

Traveling, shmaveling....if a guy is robbed on the road like Pac was (vs future HOFer Horn), it was meant to be.
Not too many fight fans gave Wilder any props until AFTER Fury beat him.
Now he's a legitimate scalp.....

[kushking]

Let me ask all of those guys something - do you have a very similar opinion of Spence as a boxer compared to guys like Beterbiev or GGG?

If not, then you have your answer of why certain people support certain fighters, and you guys are part of the problem you're complaining about.

All 3 of those guys have had very similar amateur successes (Spence being the least successful of the 3), very similar pro successes (mostly dominant wins at 1 weight class), and very similar styles in the ring (relentless, big punching, hard working, pressure fighters with good fundamentals, easy enough to hit, but hard to hurt), and similar styles outside the ring (head down, not too much into the limelight).

And the one of the 3 with the most baggage on a personal level is Spence, with the drunk driving stuff and that crash. So I could understand how people were turned off from him from that.

I certainly was. It even affected how I viewed him as a fighter, he seemed like he was letting himself go. I even went from having him top 3-5 pfp and as a clear winner over Bud, to picking Crawford over him h2h in a span of about a year.

Absolutely ridiculous to see so many of the biggest haters on here, playing the victim and complaining about why people don't like Spence as a fighter. Yet they aren't fans at all of guys like AB and GGG who are very similar fighters...hmmm I wonder why.

Stop the pity party, or drop the bias yourselves. No one wants to read that sh.it.

This thread makes no sense,Ggg is 40, Beterbiev is like 37 or some sh.. Spence just turned 32,hes has already fought actual champs at his weightclass 3x now & is going for#4 v a p4p ww champ.

Compare that to Ggg at age 32 or Beterbiev at the same age.

Now compare it to current of those 2, Beterbiev has fought 1 semi elite fighter & a already kod journeyman B level 1x,aside from this hes done nothing,ggg at now age 40 has beat 1 elite fighter(Jacobs), 1 semi elite fighter (Deryev who nobody seen as a threat & whos lost all his step up fights but still clobbered ggg) & 1 B- fighter in Murata.

Thats what he has to show for a 16 year pro career.

Close fights you lost don't count

[Boxing-1013]

This thread makes no sense,Ggg is 40, Beterbiev is like 37 or some sh.. Spence just turned 32,hes has already fought actual champs at his weightclass 3x now & is going for#4 v a p4p ww champ.

Compare that to Ggg at age 32 or Beterbiev at the same age.

Now compare it to current of those 2, Beterbiev has fought 1 semi elite fighter & a already kod journeyman B level 1x,aside from this hes done nothing,ggg at now age 40 has beat 1 elite fighter(Jacobs), 1 semi elite fighter (Deryev who nobody seen as a threat & whos lost all his step up fights but still clobbered ggg) & 1 B- fighter in Murata.

Thats what he has to show for a 16 year pro career.

Close fights you lost don't count

Lol. Yeah nice spin attempt. All that butthurt from you just because everyone saw an old GGG beat Canelo twice. Hurts don't it.

GGG was the man at his weight class at 32. It's splitting hairs as far as who beat better fighters by that time in their careers, and it's irrelevant anyway.

THEY ARE SIMILAR FIGHTHERS, WITH SIMILAR SUCCESSES, AND SIMILAR STYLES. IF YOU HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT OPINION OF THEIR FIGHTING ABILITY RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE PROBABLY A BAD FAN.

Maybe reading it in uppercase letters will get it through that dumbass skull you've been burdened with.

Do you get it dummy? Lol

[kushking]

Lol. Yeah nice spin attempt. All that butthurt from you just because everyone saw an old GGG beat Canelo twice. Hurts don't it.

GGG was the man at his weight class at 32. It's splitting hairs as far as who beat better fighters by that time in their careers, and it's irrelevant anyway.

THEY ARE SIMILAR FIGHTHERS, WITH SIMILAR SUCCESSES, AND SIMILAR STYLES. IF YOU HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT OPINION OF THEIR FIGHTING ABILITY RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE PROBABLY A BAD FAN.

Maybe reading it in uppercase letters will get it through that dumbass skull you've been burdened with.

Do you get it dummy? Lol

You as usual always start your rebuttals with a lame spin overflowing with butthurt.

"Bu bu but ggg got robbed I swear...."

(find a new punchline, opinions are like aholes,what matters is ggg has 1 elite scalp on his resume,& if you want to go off supposed robberies,he robbed Deryev & Jacobs. See how that works,dumdum?)

Also your claim about ggg being the man at mw at 32 is complete bs,he hadn't even won a legitimate belt by age 32,Eeeeaawwww

Spence barely turned 32

Ggg at same age had just been gifted a jr title by beating the atg Rubio(Chavez Jr leftovers & Pavlik & Atg oumas leftovers)

Ggg hadn't fought a single elite opponent that is anywhere near comparable to who Spence has already fought

Ggg was a club fighter at 32

Its Hilarious that all g fans have is a supposed robbery v a smaller guy g dragged up as a cherrypick gone wrong

[Boxing-1013]

You as usual always start your rebuttals with a lame spin overflowing with butthurt.

"Bu bu but ggg got robbed I swear...."

(find a new punchline, opinions are like aholes,what matters is ggg has 1 elite scalp on his resume,& if you want to go off supposed robberies,he robbed Deryev & Jacobs. See how that works,dumdum?)

Also your claim about ggg being the man at mw at 32 is complete bs,he hadn't even won a legitimate belt by age 32,Eeeeaawwww

Spence barely turned 32

Ggg at same age had just been gifted a jr title by beating the atg Rubio(Chavez Jr leftovers & Pavlik & Atg oumas leftovers)

Ggg hadn't fought a single elite opponent that is anywhere near comparable to who Spence has already fought

Ggg was a club fighter at 32

Its Hilarious that all g fans have is a supposed robbery v a smaller guy g dragged up as a cherrypick gone wrong

Lol it's hilarious that you call a guy a bum, who hasn't beat anyone, and he was apparently a shot bum who hadn't beat anybody and got all these gifts - yet he still beat your hero twice? Lol. Nice flex man.

A belt doesn't tell if someone is the man or not lol. By 32 GGG had dominant KO wins over Ouma, Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, Stevens, Geale, Rubio and Murray. That's 9 guys that I rate as fighters - he KOed every one of them and probably lost single digit rounds in those 9 fights, total lol. Most of them were in the Ouma fight.

Spence by 32 has 2 great KO wins over Ugas and Brook. 3 rather lackluster (in their own ways) decisions over Porter, and the 2 Garcias. Then he has a few good wins in my book over Van Heerdan, Algieri, and Peterson. That's 8 wins over quality or better fighters.

For me GGG had a deeper run but Spence's was tougher on the top end, but some of that maybe was because GGG was more dominant than Spence too. That's possible.

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Now that I schooled you on boxing history - let me say again - NONE OF THAT MATTERS REGARDING THE POINT I MADE - my point was about comparing those fighters TODAY. We are comparing their levels TODAY - if you rate one of them TODAY, then you should rate the others similarly, since they have similar styles, successes etc

Do you get it yet?? Lol

[-Kev-]

If a fighter is really good and has me in awe, I don’t care where they’re from. Tyson Fury won me over. I like Beterbiev.

GGG did what he had to do for someone who blew up at 30 due to poor choices in promotional companies and management (?).

I thought Spence was done and I was disappointed at his drunk driving. But he won me over again as a fan with his performance over Ugas.

As a boxing fan, I am very performanced-based, resume wise. Who did you beat and how. That is how I am won over by a boxer.

If GGG was latino or black I still would not care about his resume. Just like I don’t care for Benavidez resume or for Charlo’s resume, or Crawford’s resume. But I like Canelo because Canelo’s career is undeniably great. Just like Lomachenko. Tyson Fury. Mayweather. Etc.

Many fans are race-based, region-based. And they think everyone else is like that, they are projecting their own racist ways on other fans.