What non-HW black fighter reached superstardom????

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  • aristotlemoses
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ryn0
    Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Robinson was very famous as the P4P number 1 had an entourage and a pick cadillac etc. a celebrity at the time
    But he was saying that no black non hws
    and I asked for some nonblack other weights.
    I mentioned all those fighters too.
    The TS just sounds silly.

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    • Shadows
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      #12
      Hagler, Ray Leonard, and Ray Robinson.

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      • cortdawg25
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        #13
        Originally posted by aristotlemoses
        ok what non HW especially recently has reached superstardom besides maybe Oscar.
        Jones Jr, Hopkins, Whitaker.
        They might not be superstars, but they are the biggest boxers in the sport when they were fighting right?
        What white guy or other type was just as big?
        There were no white guys on that level because they weren't as good as them at that time in the non HW divisions.

        But not trying to make it black and white issue. It is simply a fact that despite black fighters being the best in the sport, they don't gain the proper recognition that they should.

        Alot of people saying Floyd is crazy, but he gotta point. Hatton was top of the P4p list simply by beating kostya Tzysu. Who else did he beat to be considered in the top 5 of P4p list. joe Calzaghe is nice, he got skills, but who did he beat previously before Hopkins and roy to be at the atop of that list. Floyd hase been dominating world class champions for over 10 yrs and him and hattton and calzaghe were mentioned as peers in their greatness. that's crazy.


        if all it takes is for Hatton to beat 1 good fighter to be atop the best in the sport, then floyd should have been a god-like figure amongst men.

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        • cortdawg25
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          #14
          Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
          It's not just boxing he is talking about in other sports. What about vick,bron,kobe,griffey just to name a few. Floyd is a ignorant kid, you can't take the hood out of floyd and he still thinks like that little ****** kid that think it's never his fault but someone elses.
          We talking boxing, not other sports.

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          • cortdawg25
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            #15
            Originally posted by aristotlemoses
            I just want to know who reached superstar status, any race, that wasn't a HW besides Oscar. And recently.
            Julio Cesar Chavez, Roberto Duran, but none has done it like Oscar. This is true.

            The more important point is that our best fighters of the sport just don't get their proper recognition. Oscar was great, but Whitaker, Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Floyd were greater and they din't get their just due.

            Therefore, Floyd gotta point!

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            • cortdawg25
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              #16
              Originally posted by Radical
              taylor
              whittaker
              lockridge
              nelson
              hearns
              hagler
              robinson
              gavilan
              chocolate
              langford
              hagler
              pbf
              leonard
              gans


              I want speak on those fighters before my time. But Whitaker, Nelson, Hearns, Hagler were not superstars. They didn't transcend the sport...they were known by boxing fans only.

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              • xAUGUSTUSx
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                #17
                Originally posted by cortdawg25
                Roy Jones Jr was highly athletic in his prime and did things I never seen in the ring and didn't get the love and the fame that he should have.

                Pernell Whitaker also was another fighter who didn't get the fame he deserved for all the marvelous things he accomplished.

                SRL is the only non HW fighter to gain superstardom in my lifetime.

                Despite black fighters being the best or among the best in the sport since the damn near conception of the sport.....for many years. Why hasn't a black non HW fighter got true Superstardom?


                Just maybe Floyd ain't that crazy!!!!!


                And if i am wrong....please correct me and name the black fighter who was the best in sport and had the Superstardom and carried the sport.

                So explain to me what white fighters were superstars bigger than Roy Jones? and when?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by cortdawg25
                  Julio Cesar Chavez, Roberto Duran, but none has done it like Oscar. This is true.

                  The more important point is that our best fighters of the sport just don't get their proper recognition. Oscar was great, but Whitaker, Jones Jr, Hopkins, and Floyd were greater and they din't get their just due.

                  Therefore, Floyd gotta point!
                  So! Oscars mexican not white. What is your point? People like Oscar who the **** cares?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by cortdawg25
                    There were no white guys on that level because they weren't as good as them at that time in the non HW divisions.

                    But not trying to make it black and white issue. It is simply a fact that despite black fighters being the best in the sport, they don't gain the proper recognition that they should.

                    Alot of people saying Floyd is crazy, but he gotta point. Hatton was top of the P4p list simply by beating kostya Tzysu. Who else did he beat to be considered in the top 5 of P4p list. joe Calzaghe is nice, he got skills, but who did he beat previously before Hopkins and roy to be at the atop of that list. Floyd hase been dominating world class champions for over 10 yrs and him and hattton and calzaghe were mentioned as peers in their greatness. that's crazy.


                    if all it takes is for Hatton to beat 1 good fighter to be atop the best in the sport, then floyd should have been a god-like figure amongst men.
                    Floyd would be liked if he did'nt have such a big mouth. All the fighters from the past that were loved by all did'nt have big mouths.

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                    • cortdawg25
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                      So! Oscars mexican not white. What is your point? People like Oscar who the **** cares?
                      this isn't about black and white.

                      fact is in the last 20 to 30 yrs. black fighters have been the best or amongst the best in the sport and only HW black fighters have reached superstardom.


                      So I'm saying Floyd has a point...he has evidence/history to suggest that black non HW fighters that have been great have not gotten their just due.

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