Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn: Fury-Whyte is Not a 50-50 Fight, 65-35 With Fury as Favorite

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Yes we do know how he fought, and he was decked twice 'And nearly sent into another dimension in the 12th round' Is that a boxing master class? No.

Fury went from, hardly being able to be hit by a Olympic Champion, and 10 year World Heavyweight Champion in Kiltschko. To then being backed up all night and decked TWICE by Deontay Wilder 'A fighter who's offense is not highly sophisticated'.

Fury adapted is style for a reason, he can ether no longer get himself in the condition to implement his old riddler style or? He does not want to do the specific training he was doing under Peter Fury in order to transform himself back into the Riddler.

Tyson Fury was 254 pounds vs Wallin, and he was still there to be hit, not hard to find or difficult to figure out.

Fury adapted his style into Kronk Fury in order to stay competitive, it is also his most innate style. This boxing and moving Fury was a style Fury only used for a small percentage of his career.

Any hardcore Tyson Fury fan, who have watched all of his fights will know exactly what I am talking about.

Tyson Fury has shown zero evidence that at 270 + pounds, he can fight with his old riddler style. And if Fury has made the tactical decision to try and drop masses of weight, and fight with his old riddler style? I think he is increasing the likely-hood that he gets sparked out.

Now is not a good time, to just suddenly transform his body and style. He has been comfortable with his current lifestyle as Kronk Fury.

The other 'dimension' of which you elude to is where Wilder sent all his other opponents except Tyson. Most knowledgeable fans had Tyson wining even with the two knockdowns so against a guy who was 40-0 with 39 by KO it had to be a boxing 'masterclass' that 40 had failed to achieve although the odd one didn't think so for whatever reason. Also bud , I've been there from the off and trained in the same gym as Hughie. So I know and have seen quite a lot .As I've said enjoy, although I'm baffled as to who you actually don't like.

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The other 'dimension' of which you elude to is where Wilder sent all his other opponents except Tyson. Most knowledgeable fans had Tyson wining even with the two knockdowns so against a guy who was 40-0 with 39 by KO it had to be a boxing 'masterclass' that 40 had failed to achieve although the odd one didn't think so for whatever reason. Also bud , I've been there from the off and trained in the same gym as Hughie. So I know and have seen quite a lot .As I've said enjoy, although I'm baffled as to who you actually don't like.

Getting knocked down twice, and being backed up all night 'Is not a boxing master class mate'.

I don't care how you try and dress it up. Tyson Fury did well considering the circumstances.

But Wilder vs Fury I, signaled the point in Fury's career were I think he decided to adapt his style.

Muhammad Ali went through a similar phase, after the Ali vs Norton II fight. Muhammad Ali inside the ring moments after the fight, realized that he needed to adapt his game.
As his old float like a butterfly and sting like a bee style, was no longer as potent.

Fury's Riddler style was no longer as potent during Wilder I, THIS is proven by the very fact. That a fighter with a aggressive yet unsophisticated offense was able to deck him twice badly.

I don't think Tyson Fury at 270 + pounds, can implement is old riddler style.

And I think it will be a wrong tactical move to try and implement this style again, while not training under Peter Fury.

I have been backing Tyson Fury to win vs Whyte 100% on principle. Because I have been disappointed with Whyte's actions during this fight build up. But with recent news of Fury possibly having dropped masses of weight 'I think this could be a wrong tactical move, increasing the likely-hood of getting himself sparked out'. I just personally think Fury should carry on implementing his Kronk Fury training style.

If you have been there from the off, I think your opinion may be subjective 'You may not want to critique them heavily'. Myself I am not actually in anyone's corner, if that is what you mean by being baffled who I don't like? The last fighter I had a deep rapport with was David Haye, he was pretty much my fighter. Apart from that, I was a keen supporter of David Price.

Note: I don't know how legitimate the news of Fury dramatically changing is conditioning is, I am only going off a thread which was made on here. I have not bothered to search for these apparent interviews with Fury conditioning coaches.

I will try and find these interviews.

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Yes we do know how he fought, and he was decked twice 'And nearly sent into another dimension in the 12th round' Is that a boxing master class? No.

Fury went from, hardly being able to be hit by a Olympic Champion, and 10 year World Heavyweight Champion in Kiltschko. To then being backed up all night and decked TWICE by Deontay Wilder 'A fighter who's offense is not highly sophisticated'.

Fury adapted is style for a reason, he can ether no longer get himself in the condition to implement his old riddler style or? He does not want to do the specific training he was doing under Peter Fury in order to transform himself back into the Riddler.

Tyson Fury was 254 pounds vs Wallin, and he was still there to be hit, not hard to find or difficult to figure out.

Fury adapted his style into Kronk Fury in order to stay competitive, it is also his most innate style. This boxing and moving Fury was a style Fury only used for a small percentage of his career.

Any hardcore Tyson Fury fan, who have watched all of his fights will know exactly what I am talking about.

Tyson Fury has shown zero evidence that at 270 + pounds, he can fight with his old riddler style. And if Fury has made the tactical decision to try and drop masses of weight, and fight with his old riddler style? I think he is increasing the likely-hood that he gets sparked out.

Now is not a good time, to just suddenly transform his body and style. He has been comfortable with his current lifestyle as Kronk Fury.

The one main problem with this assessment though is Fury fought very weak opposition barring Chisora the first time who rocked him a few times and Wlad who was non committed. Fury’s been badly floored with trying elusive style and Wallin showed an easy way to get to him when Fury tried playing the matador he got tagged up by someone with an aggressive style behind a jab. Much like a young Ali looked more impressive but it was actually due to far less competition,the 1970”s brought in a bigger talent pool .

While I agree Fury has to play outside boxer ,physically he still has to match Whytes pressure ,so I won’t be buying Fury weighed to much if he losses ,I know excuses will be plentiful but 260/270 pound Fury stands the best chance in this one . What’s not determinis Whytes fighting weight ,he operates best below 245 .