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  • #21
    Fury is much more versatile than Dillian and the style he went with against Chisora would no doubt do the job in a similar fashion. He is out to prove a point, make a statement and take Whyte out in double fast time. Only trouble is Whyte can see beyond the nearly $12m he'd get should he win and will be more than ready for his 'lottery' attempt .This is a do or die for Dillian and Tyson will have his hands full should he get hurt early or not be rid of Whyte , If this is the case he will revert back to his boxing and movement and tying Whyte up. This fight will be good and there will be drama but I expect Tyson to be ultimately too much for Whyte who will possibly end on his feet but bust up but still raising his hand in defeat.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by thack View Post
      Fury is much more versatile than Dillian and the style he went with against Chisora would no doubt do the job in a similar fashion. He is out to prove a point, make a statement and take Whyte out in double fast time. Only trouble is Whyte can see beyond the nearly $12m he'd get should he win and will be more than ready for his 'lottery' attempt .This is a do or die for Dillian and Tyson will have his hands full should he get hurt early or not be rid of Whyte , If this is the case he will revert back to his boxing and movement and tying Whyte up. This fight will be good and there will be drama but I expect Tyson to be ultimately too much for Whyte who will possibly end on his feet but bust up but still raising his hand in defeat.
      Fury at 270 + pounds, cannot implement his old riddler style. He has shown zero evidence of this.

      The last time he was 254 pounds vs Wallin, he was busted up real good.

      All the people who think? Fury can just switch between styles, need to understand that Fury in some ways is one dimensional these days.

      Fury will fight Whyte, the same way he fought Wilder. If Fury wanted to bring back his old riddler style, he would of needed to be training with Peter Fury.

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      • #23
        Fury favourite 60 -40 anything can happen when top 5 heavyweights collide.
        If Josh loses to usyk, Josh v fury will still happen as people still want to know who wins between the 2 of them.. How hard can it be to make a fight?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Fury favourite 60 -40 anything can happen when top 5 heavyweights collide.
          If Josh loses to usyk, Josh v fury will still happen as people still want to know who wins between the 2 of them.. How hard can it be to make a fight?
          That’s not true. You, Eddie Hearn and another 7-8 people on this forum are desperate to see it.

          anyone with a bit of in depth knowledge of this sport know the outcome of Fury V AJ.

          Joshua cannot beat top fighters that aren’t 40 years old. He’s fought one truly top tier fighter under 40 years old and he got embarrassed. You need to watch his fight with Usyk back, where Joshua throws 4 punch combos hitting nothing but air.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by RoadMan94 View Post

            That’s not true. You, Eddie Hearn and another 7-8 people on this forum are desperate to see it.

            anyone with a bit of in depth knowledge of this sport know the outcome of Fury V AJ.

            Joshua cannot beat top fighters that aren’t 40 years old. He’s fought one truly top tier fighter under 40 years old and he got embarrassed. You need to watch his fight with Usyk back, where Joshua throws 4 punch combos hitting nothing but air.
            But Josh gave usyk a good fight. Fury not beat usyk so can't boast about Josh losing to usyk.
            No, I'm sure many want to see Josh v fury, the alternative is fury retiring or fighting lesser fighters with less of a legacy under belt like Joyce, flip, etc I don't think fury wants those. Main rivals have to fight
            Last edited by hugh grant; 04-13-2022, 04:48 AM.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              Fury at 270 + pounds, cannot implement his old riddler style. He has shown zero evidence of this.

              The last time he was 254 pounds vs Wallin, he was busted up real good.

              All the people who think? Fury can just switch between styles, need to understand that Fury in some ways is one dimensional these days.

              Fury will fight Whyte, the same way he fought Wilder. If Fury wanted to bring back his old riddler style, he would of needed to be training with Peter Fury.
              Fury was 260 when he fought Wilder the first time and we know how he fought , don't we? Fury knew after being nailed and dropped in the 12th that when he came back firing Wilder didn't like it and from there fought him much more aggressively in that round and in fight 2 and 3 , due in part to his obvious lack of boxing ability and like a lot of punchers his inability to fight in reverse. I think I'd guess Fury knows a 'little' more than yourself about how to preform for different fighters. He got it wrong for Wallin that was plain to see but if he has to revert to that safety first style against Whyte then a few pounds on his massive frame won't make a great difference. I would also think that the years spent with astute trainer Peter Fury will be well etched in his mind, this is how world champions and top fighters think. An ability to think on their feet and adjust , remember when Wilder had Tyson down and nearly out in that 12th round it was Tyson that had to do something different and did! Incredibly he backed him up , where offensive became defence. Don't take your 'zero evidence' theory too seriously you are witnessing a unbeaten ,huge, great heavyweight fighter with a great chin, great movement , a decent dig and a seriously high boxing IQ!...Enjoy.

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              • #27
                That is being generous. Its more like 90/10, reason being that boxing is the theater of the unknown and anything can happen. Whyte is a proven pro boxer but Fury is just at another level.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by denium View Post

                  Whyte has said some mean things, so Tyson might just decide to carry Whyte and beat him up for 12 rounds.

                  Nobody knows what Fury will do, so a bet is risky.
                  Cool.........

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by thack View Post

                    Fury was 260 when he fought Wilder the first time and we know how he fought , don't we? Fury knew after being nailed and dropped in the 12th that when he came back firing Wilder didn't like it and from there fought him much more aggressively in that round and in fight 2 and 3 , due in part to his obvious lack of boxing ability and like a lot of punchers his inability to fight in reverse. I think I'd guess Fury knows a 'little' more than yourself about how to preform for different fighters. He got it wrong for Wallin that was plain to see but if he has to revert to that safety first style against Whyte then a few pounds on his massive frame won't make a great difference. I would also think that the years spent with astute trainer Peter Fury will be well etched in his mind, this is how world champions and top fighters think. An ability to think on their feet and adjust , remember when Wilder had Tyson down and nearly out in that 12th round it was Tyson that had to do something different and did! Incredibly he backed him up , where offensive became defence. Don't take your 'zero evidence' theory too seriously you are witnessing a unbeaten ,huge, great heavyweight fighter with a great chin, great movement , a decent dig and a seriously high boxing IQ!...Enjoy.
                    Yes we do know how he fought, and he was decked twice 'And nearly sent into another dimension in the 12th round' Is that a boxing master class? No.

                    Fury went from, hardly being able to be hit by a Olympic Champion, and 10 year World Heavyweight Champion in Kiltschko. To then being backed up all night and decked TWICE by Deontay Wilder 'A fighter who's offense is not highly sophisticated'.

                    Fury adapted is style for a reason, he can ether no longer get himself in the condition to implement his old riddler style or? He does not want to do the specific training he was doing under Peter Fury in order to transform himself back into the Riddler.

                    Tyson Fury was 254 pounds vs Wallin, and he was still there to be hit, not hard to find or difficult to figure out.

                    Fury adapted his style into Kronk Fury in order to stay competitive, it is also his most innate style. This boxing and moving Fury was a style Fury only used for a small percentage of his career.

                    Any hardcore Tyson Fury fan, who have watched all of his fights will know exactly what I am talking about.

                    Tyson Fury has shown zero evidence that at 270 + pounds, he can fight with his old riddler style. And if Fury has made the tactical decision to try and drop masses of weight, and fight with his old riddler style? I think he is increasing the likely-hood that he gets sparked out.

                    Now is not a good time, to just suddenly transform his body and style. He has been comfortable with his current lifestyle as Kronk Fury.

                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-13-2022, 08:15 AM.

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                    • #30
                      if fury cant beat stumble bum he might as well go back on the booze full time

                      whytes not too bad i guess but anyone decent should beat him

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