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  • -Kev-
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    #21
    Nobody cares. When are we getting Canelo vs Usyk or Fury, with no catchweight?

    Bivol lost 15 times in amateurs, out of 283 fights. He is no world beater.

    Canelo is obviously ducking Breidis at CW, and Usyk, Fury, AJ, Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz, and Parker at HW. He refuses to fight guys his own size. Picking on these tiny LHW’s, SMW’s, and MW’s like Callum Smith, Dmitry Bivol, and Daniel Jacobs. It’s sickening.

    Hopefully Canelo grows a pair and calls out Oleksandr Usyk at HW with no catchweight after this.

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    • Elastic Recoilz
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      #22
      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
      Another case that boxing fans are never happy. No weight clauses but some find a way to still bytch about it.
      Why should there be weight clauses? If you're "daring to be great" by going up in weight to fight a champion, fight him at his full weight! Don't try to pull the wool over fans eyes with rehydration clauses...

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      • Elastic Recoilz
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

        Doubles his power? Do you know anything about boxing? He has been ringing up KOs since he is fighting at a more natural weight. Not weight draining = maintaining and increasing power at your most natural weight. I can rattle off at least a dozen boxers where this has happened. Honest question, are you new to boxing?

        Wanted no part of Beterbiev? They are already discussing that as the next fight. I believe Canelo could fight every champion at every weight class on the same night and because he didn’t KO them all you’d still have the celebrity clout chasing crew claiming cherry pick.

        You folks need to find a different sport to follow. Boxing isn’t for casuals.
        Lol you're practically vindicating Canelo for taking clenbuterol with that statement you donut...

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          #24
          Originally posted by b morph

          It doesn’t always work out like that though because yes, when you move up, you might make weight easier and are less drained, but you’re also dealing with bigger guys who are used to taking punches at that weight.

          And the guy moving up isn’t used to taking those punches.

          I actually think it’s more common for the number of a boxers KOs to go down as they move up, but yeah. Not always the case. I think there’s so many variables involved too. At least when we talk about punching power or KOs.

          But Canelos always had phenomenal power, so it doesn’t surprise me that he’s still on his streak.
          He doesn't. He has above average power but is incredibly accurate with it. He is not a naturally concussive puncher like Teofimo Lopez, Beterbiev, Golovkin or Monster Inoue. If he was he would've iced Chavez Jr who was a human punchbag when they fought.

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            #25
            Eye roll, little bullshhh talking points. So he didn’t take an advantage over his opponent. This is now breaking news? No shhh he isn’t gonna do a rehydration clause because much like Maywearther he doesn’t like going on the scale the day of the fight again.
            Last edited by turnedup; 04-07-2022, 09:15 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by rrayvez
              “No. Because he doesn’t feel that’s what greats do.”
              Wonder why the change of heart considering the fact that he’s the guy who has asked for more catchweight fights and rehydration clauses than probably anyone ever in boxing. This includes all of his fights at 155, his absurd catchweight of 162.5 against Chavez jr and his rehydration clauses for his fights with Jacobs, Fielding and Kovalev.
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              PAC is the king of Catchweights. Canelo might just be a prince

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                #27
                Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz

                He doesn't. He has above average power but is incredibly accurate with it. He is not a naturally concussive puncher like Teofimo Lopez, Beterbiev, Golovkin or Monster Inoue. If he was he would've iced Chavez Jr who was a human punchbag when they fought.
                He’s a (little man). That’s his problem and yours. Think about it. A man that small surviving with truly BIGGER men. Its not natural. How does he do it? TIMING, ring savy & velocity.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Nobody cares. When are we getting Canelo vs Usyk or Fury, with no catchweight?

                  Bivol lost 15 times in amateurs, out of 283 fights. He is no world beater.

                  Canelo is obviously ducking Breidis at CW, and Usyk, Fury, AJ, Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz, and Parker at HW. He refuses to fight guys his own size. Picking on these tiny LHW’s, SMW’s, and MW’s like Callum Smith, Dmitry Bivol, and Daniel Jacobs. It’s sickening.

                  Hopefully Canelo grows a pair and calls out Oleksandr Usyk at HW with no catchweight after this.
                  Lmaooooo!!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Yes, no point sabotaging legacy fight like floyd did with nelo.
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                    Have a look at facts and proofs below
                    Canelo is the one who called out Floyd. Canelo is the one that offered to meet Floyd at Catchweight. In his own words … yet here you are propagating untruths.





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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BigDramaShow!
                      Where was this when Alvaroids was draining his opponents to 155, his absurd catchweight of 162.5 against Chavez jr and his rehydration clauses for his fights with Jacobs, Fielding and Kovalev?
                      Draining opponents to 155???

                      Cotto came in at 153 vs Canelo. He loved the 155lb CW. He came in at 155lbs vs Martinez in a 158lb cw fight.

                      Lara is a 154lb fighter even in 2022. 155lbs was not draining him

                      Angulo, Kirkland and Smith were all 154lb fighters. In Kirkland’s 3 fights prior to Canelo, he weighed 153 twice, and 155 once. So no, 155lbs wasn’t draining Kirkland.

                      Khan came up in weight. Again, not draining.

                      Chavez Jr was okay with 162lbs. He couldn’t make it. They accommodated him by raising the cw. He initially had zero issues.

                      ”Chavez is open to the idea of 162-pounds, but he wants to see if De La Hoya is actually serious about his statements.

                      "The fight with Canelo has been discussed for a long time, and he has been fighting at [junior middleweight], but I went up to super middleweight so a catch-weight is doable. Let's see if the interest is real, as I said, I'm still waiting to get offered a good fight," Chavez said.”

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                      Many fighters, Jacobs included, benefit from no same day weigh ins. This allows big fighters to come in 15-20lbs over the weight limit in the ring. GGG weighs 170lbs on fight night. So did Canelo (169lbs) in their MW fights.

                      Other fighters who come in less than 10lbs heavier in the ring were Mayweather and Pacquiao.

                      All great fighters even though they were dwarfed on fight night.

                      I am not sure what is some fans obsession with wanting fighters to come in 20lbs heavier than their opponent to circumvent the point of weight classes.

                      Boxing organizations should force rehydration weight. It shouldn’t take for a smaller fighter to implement that in a contract. Boxing has weight classes for a reason, loopholes shouldn’t be allowed.

                      I had Jacobs narrowly beating GGG, but he was also 183lbs on fight night, to GGG’s 170lbs, which is ridiculous. He was so damn big he could’ve been campaigning at 168 easily.

                      Same exact crap happened to Lomachenko vs Salido. Not only did Salido cheat on the scales by coming in over 2lbs over, and with the blatant low blowing, but he also came into the ring at 147lbs for a FEATHERWEIGHT fight. He barely beat Lomachenko, who weighed 135lbs. Loma almost beat him even while being way smaller and having been a victim of cheating.

                      These exaggerated rehydrations by some fighters are ridiculous. And it’s shameful for fans to defend that. There’s fcking weight classes for a reason. Rehydrations of 15-20lbs undermines the whole point of weight classes.

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