Pacquiao Denies Steroid Use, Roach Blasts Floyd

[Al Haymon]

.... so shall we put this topic to rest for a while?
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I can get on board with that?

[Pullcounter]

That's where you lose me, buddy. FMS wasn't even particularly dogmatic in that video.

FMS said "In my honest opinion, I believe...." That is FAR from a "blatant accusation".

its not exactly an "accusation" in a strict sense of the word, but Floyd Sr was blantant about it.

[Al Haymon]

its not exactly an "accusation" in a strict sense of the word, but Floyd Sr was blantant about it.

Or even in the "loose" sense of the word.

Main Entry: ac·cuse
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈkyüz\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ac·cused; ac·cus·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French accuser, from Latin accusare to call to account, from ad- + causa lawsuit
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
1 : to charge with a fault or offense
2 : to charge with an offense judicially or by a public process





Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈpin-yən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin opinion-, opinio, from opinari
Date: 14th century
1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter b : approval, esteem
2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a generally held view


Now, which did FMS do? Did he charge Pac with something, or did he express a view formed in his mind?

You can leave this as a rhetorical question. You may not be fond of admitting error.

[chinoy]

Yeah...Alex Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro claimed they never took any steroids either. I'm sure Manny is on steroids..Freddie said they have gone and tested him a couple of times. If that's the case then why would they test him if they didn't think he was doing something? I know what Mosley and Manny is using. It sure as hell aint no rice either. When you say you don't even know what a steroid is lets me know you are lying. All I ask is just be tested. You don't hear Freddie saying lets make sure both fighters are tested after every fight. I do think all fighters should be tested 2 or 3 weeks before a big fight and right after the fight.

you are SURE???????

go back to the ****** boy

[jrosales13]

You're so sensitive bro... of course he knows what roids are, but this is one way how Filipino delivers vehement denials, just like saying "*** with this stuff! who cares about steroids! i don't and never use that!" But to simplify this in a cool way, "Using steroids??, I don't even know what steroids are!"

lol I am not sensitive at all. If you notice my first post was 'lol Pac does not know what steroids are'. Now the post that you are responded to. Was to a poser who responded to me by saying. '3rd world countrie has other things to worry about besides steroids'. What???? That response to me made no sence. So that why I responded with the post you referring to.

[KOKing27]

You go Roach! Floyd Sr. not only sucks as a trainer, he sucks as a human being! Someone needs to take out all that trash that are named Mayweather! Floyd Sr=thug, Roger=thug, Floyd Jr=wannabe thug!

[Eaner0919]

wow! the guy gained 3 lbs. in over a year while jumping 2 divisions.

he must be on roids.

pacquiao-marquez 2 at super featherweight march 2008

weigh in weight - 130

fight night weight - 145





pacquiao hatton at junior welterweight may 2009

weigh in weight - 138

fight night weight - 148

touched a nerve I see

ok no worries man apologies for getting you all upset

if you to solely attribute his weight gain to not cutting or water weight ok but like I said looking at the pics of each weigh in (and I was at the weigh ins for Barrera II Marquez II De La Hoya and Hatton) I cannot see where there is a 12lb weight gain before he rehydrates. Thats lean muscle mass not water he put on in 9 months

agree to disagree

[rommel357]

BTW, i gained between 10-14lbs within a year. Because of it, i now have a beer belly, and i don't even drink beer.

[rao007]

In a word? No. It does not.

Truth.

Opinions are the basis of talk radio, and the op-ed pages. You see and hear derogatory stuff there ALL the time (yeah, Glenn Beck... I'm looking at YOU). But there is little that the aggrieved party can do because - in this country - the speaker is protected.

freedom of speech is the most valued principle the US has.

This is where we diverge in thinking. I'm not referring to freedom of speech but the rationale behind Mayweather's opinion. What 'evidence' other than inference can Mayweather Sr. use to surmise that Pacquiao is on steroids? None. His claim is baseless, liken to suggesting ***** used vocal techniques to mind control people during his speeches. Therefore, it goes beyond being an opinion to being a personal attack.

Mayweather Sr. before the Pacquiao-Hatton: "I think Manny's a very good fighter," Mayweather said. "I think he can be a much better fighter, though, under different circumstances. But Manny's a very good fighter. I can't take anything away from Manny. I can think of a lot more things he can do that's he's not doing. So, you'll have to take that up with his trainer."


Mayweather Sr. after the Pacquiao-Hatton:"I wouldn’t call Pacquiao a good fighter at all, I wouldn’t. I mean, that’s my opinion because I see too many things he does."

Wow. Such a sudden change in opinion. Even with Manny's flaws--Mayweather took the time to say that Manny is a "very good fighter"--yet after the fight he still says Manny has flaws but now Manny's not a good fighter?

What changed?

[ThePunchingBag]

This is where we diverge in thinking. I'm not referring to freedom of speech but the rationale behind Mayweather's opinion. What 'evidence' other than inference can Mayweather Sr. use to surmise that Pacquiao is on steroids? None. His claim is baseless, liken to suggesting ***** used his vocal techniques to mind control people during his speeches. Therefore, it goes beyond being an opinion to being a personal attack.

Mayweather Sr. before the Pacquiao-Hatton: "I think Manny's a very good fighter," Mayweather said. "I think he can be a much better fighter, though, under different circumstances. But Manny's a very good fighter. I can't take anything away from Manny. I can think of a lot more things he can do that's he's not doing. So, you'll have to take that up with his trainer."


Mayweather Sr. after the Pacquiao-Hatton:"I wouldn’t call Pacquiao a good fighter at all, I wouldn’t. I mean, that’s my opinion because I see too many things he does."

Wow. Such a sudden change in opinion. Even with Manny's flaws--Mayweather took the time to say that Manny is a "very good fighter"--yet after the fight he still says Manny has flaws but now Manny's not a good fighter?

What changed?

Co-Sign

This is why anything coming out of Mayweather Sr's mouth about Pacquiao should be dismissed as depressing attempts to attack a fighter who more or less ruined any chances Mayweather Sr. has of training another fighter.

The guy is butthurt and is still bitter that Pacquaio retired both him and Hatton. Nothing less, nothing more.