Comments Thread For: Hearn Expects To Part Ways With Andrade After May 21 Parker Bout: 'We Tried Everything'

[Afi23]

Exactly right. Sergio recognized he was avoided so he took on other avoided guys. He took huge risks for small paydays. He got lucky getting the Pavlik fight though. That was a huge break. Pavlik's matchmaking was terrible.

I hear you and props to Sergio.
But see how a GGG who was also avoided but behind a strong HBO/Media push, stood his ground at 160lbs, never moved up and eventually got the big fight. Without such strong push, GGG would probably would have had to do what Sergio did. And yes, GGG is partly responsible for the media push because of his skillset and entertaining style.

[STREET CLEANER]

Andrade keeps jumping up? I thought until recently he been at MW for years

He should had stood at 154 and jumped up looking for a big money fight, now he jumps up again chasing a fight. He doesn't establish himself in a weight and he is not a big enough name to go up in weight and find meaningful fights.

I don't dislike Andrade, but the way he was managed and the choices that they have made has not capture the public's interest in seeing him fight. He becomes a fighter that is high risk/low reward or simply a fighter you can't look good against.

Lara has even a worst style but has taken some fights that puts him in the picture for other big fights.

[Oldskoolg]

At this point, Hearn accepts than he’s been KTFO by America. Naive to think he had the testes or the business smarts to play in this sandbox.

Does this mean there will be no “American takeover “?????!!

[kushking]

All the Andrade apologists are hilarious. If doodoo was being ducked why didn't he sacrifice for a step up fight to redeem himself like Canelo did multiple times v the likes of Lara when he took less money v his supposed kryptonite v a boring ass fighter with no commercial appeal?

Because as usual Andrade ducks smoke,he ducked Charlo at jmw,& he ducked Alim at mw & instead is dropping his belt to fight no hopers at smw for no belt.

Am I missing something?

[aaronbnb]

I hear you and props to Sergio.
But see how a GGG who was also avoided but behind a strong HBO/Media push, stood his ground at 160lbs, never moved up and eventually got the big fight. Without such strong push, GGG would probably would have had to do what Sergio did. And yes, GGG is partly responsible for the media push because of his skillset and entertaining style.

Sergio had a much better career than GGG. Lots of signature wins and memorable moments.

GGG didn't really stand his ground at 160. GGG was happy to go to 168 for Chavez Jr or Froch, but GGG was too much risk for them.

The big lesson from GGG's career is the power of activity. When someone fights 3-4 times a year for a couple years, they really put themselves in the attention of boxing fans. I haven't seen any fighter adopt this strategy since GGG.

[Ragga1]

I didn’t mean to hurt you my Mate, I can only apologise for that, I was just telling the truth,

So besides Joshua, there isn’t anyone else? Are you admitting this? Well, if a fighter has the talent, he hires a promoter to deliver for them. A manager to take care of them and a trainer to coach them.

If you often self proclaim yourself as “the best promoter in world boxing” one needs to have an in-depth resume and PROOF Of producing stars over and over.

Again, Eddie hasn’t done this. He’s kept himself relevant in America by talking cheap and disrespecting other fighters/Promoters and managers.

I’d argue Barry does the same with his beefs with Ronnie in snooker.

It isn’t because of his high quality fight nights. It isn’t because he is consistently making the biggest fights in America, is it?

Now poor DAZN have had to rely on investor capital to survive. PPV from a service that claimed to be the the “new leader in world sports” and would bring the death of PPV.

Id be more than happy to compare accomplishments? You tell me all the stars Eddie has produced, and I’ll give you a list the bobfather has had.

One built his own company, another Inherited his from dad and Epstein. Ask Leyton orient fans what they think of Eddie and Barry.

No hurt my end mate, you’re projecting negativity through your statements so the hurt is only with yourself.

Hearn has helped a lot of fighters earn their biggest paydays with him Froch, Brook, BJ Saunders and helped over achievers like Anthony Crolla etc.

Promoting the biggest fighter in the world (Canelo) in America.

Wow you’re really going to town! DAZN is decent for the fights they have on their and to be fair DAZN have at least come out and said they got it wrong, if you don’t like DAZN then don’t subscribe, simple!

Bobfather! Haha, how cute! Arum has been promoting fighters since the 60s! He’s 90 years old and still going strong, considering his longevity and the shear amount of boxers he’s promoted, overall he’s probably one of the best promoters of all time currently.

A good friend of mine used to play for Leyton Orient and had his testimonial there, with all the proceeds going to him. Well Barry Hearn took a load of the money and kept it for himself, to cover costs.

[Ragga1]

Joshua ducked wilder my dude. Before you start with “wilder admitted he ducked”

he never.

He explained how even though he felt Eddies offer for wilder to fight AJ was derogatory, it was still more than he made fighting fury, hence he kept his word in giving fury his rematch.

Eddie ran to twitter like a vulture does to try and benefit from it, he knew his tweet would motivate Matchroom incels all over the world to put down their FleshLights for one hour a day and spam every comment section with “wilder admitted he ducked”

Joshua ducked usyk until he couldn’t anymore. Joshua claims he did all he could to make the fury fight, if this is the case, We KNOW he didn’t do everything to fight wilder, did he?

he didn’t offer 50/50, he didn’t sign contracts, he told his fans to train and fight wilder, he got his team to all give different reasons why he can’t fight wilder and bought Parker’s belt.

and yer, I am replying twice, because I want to cover every base so that your brain can fully understand what’s going on here.

Joshua’s team made an offer to Wilder, which he rejected and he accidentally admitted this himself after he said he had no offer from them. Wilder’s team never wanted to negotiate the fight, this was said plenty of times by Shelly Finkel at the time.

He ducked Usyk........but he fought him?! He’s even trying to fight him a second time. Common sense doesn’t appear to be very common in this instance.

I hope you can relieve yourself of this negativity and live a happier life. Good luck to you!

[Afi23]

Sergio had a much better career than GGG. Lots of signature wins and memorable moments.

GGG didn't really stand his ground at 160. GGG was happy to go to 168 for Chavez Jr or Froch, but GGG was too much risk for them.

The big lesson from GGG's career is the power of activity. When someone fights 3-4 times a year for a couple years, they really put themselves in the attention of boxing fans. I haven't seen any fighter adopt this strategy since GGG.

I won't dispute your points especially the importance of being active and being in the boxing public eye.
That being said, let's be fair, around that time, Froch was no longer the threat he once was. To be honest, I don't even think Froch really wanted that GGG fight despite him talking mad **** to GGG.
And I'm not getting into the "who ducked who" in the Ward-GGG saga.

[P to the J]

All the Andrade apologists are hilarious. If doodoo was being ducked why didn't he sacrifice for a step up fight to redeem himself like Canelo did multiple times v the likes of Lara when he took less money v his supposed kryptonite v a boring ass fighter with no commercial appeal?

Because as usual Andrade ducks smoke,he ducked Charlo at jmw,& he ducked Alim at mw & instead is dropping his belt to fight no hopers at smw for no belt.

Am I missing something?

Don’t know about all of this, just a big fan of using ‘DooDoo’ as a nickname, and hope it catches on

[-Kev-]

Big fights sailed a long time ago. Long, long time ago.

I am surprised any promoter or trainer would take a chance with Andrade after what he pulled on Charlo/HBO, and rejecting “Lara”. Those decisions still resonate til this day.

I he har fought Charlo and Lara, and beat them, he would have had 1000x better resume than he does today.

When you don’t fight good fighters for a long time in your career, no one’s going to care about you. Andrade had the chance to fight good fighters. He could retire tomorrow and no one would care.