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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #51
    Andrade just was chasing a big payday and idled too much. Like many boxers todays instead of making a case for themselves they will sit and wait and squeeze in a winnable no name fight that does not move the needle.

    Instead of staying in a weight class he keeps jumping up looking to get paid and has not one marquee win. Either he was mismanaged or his plan did not work

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    • TinAgeOfBoxing
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      #52
      Andrade should be the back up to fight Canelo if the Golovkin/Canelo fight does not happen. Not Ryder and Buatsi. Assuming Andrade beats Parker.

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      • RoadMan94
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        #53
        Originally posted by Ragga1

        Haha, you’re so anti Hearn it hurts!

        He was the promoter all through Joshua’s career, sure Sky helped, AJ ducks no one and all of this has helped create his massive profile. It’s not just down to a promoter to make someone a big star. Imagine if Tony Yoka was promoted by Hearn? Both Olympic gold medalists but AJ has progressed much quicker than he has, in regards to how long Yoka has been a pro (I’m not dissing Yoka). You can pick any fighter/promoter combo that hasn’t worked. Look at Crawford/Arum? Sometimes the chemistry doesn’t match the potential.
        I didn’t mean to hurt you my Mate, I can only apologise for that, I was just telling the truth,

        So besides Joshua, there isn’t anyone else? Are you admitting this? Well, if a fighter has the talent, he hires a promoter to deliver for them. A manager to take care of them and a trainer to coach them.

        If you often self proclaim yourself as “the best promoter in world boxing” one needs to have an in-depth resume and PROOF Of producing stars over and over.

        Again, Eddie hasn’t done this. He’s kept himself relevant in America by talking cheap and disrespecting other fighters/Promoters and managers.

        I’d argue Barry does the same with his beefs with Ronnie in snooker.

        It isn’t because of his high quality fight nights. It isn’t because he is consistently making the biggest fights in America, is it?

        Now poor DAZN have had to rely on investor capital to survive. PPV from a service that claimed to be the the “new leader in world sports” and would bring the death of PPV.

        Id be more than happy to compare accomplishments? You tell me all the stars Eddie has produced, and I’ll give you a list the bobfather has had.

        One built his own company, another Inherited his from dad and Epstein. Ask Leyton orient fans what they think of Eddie and Barry.
        Last edited by RoadMan94; 03-26-2022, 11:23 AM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
          Andrade just was chasing a big payday and idled too much. Like many boxers todays instead of making a case for themselves they will sit and wait and squeeze in a winnable no name fight that does not move the needle.

          Instead of staying in a weight class he keeps jumping up looking to get paid and has not one marquee win. Either he was mismanaged or his plan did not work
          Andrade keeps jumping up? I thought until recently he been at MW for years
          Last edited by Dakuwaqa; 03-26-2022, 11:27 AM.

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #55
            Young Edward deserves the blame 110%. The fact that he is lining up Ryder and Buatsi for Canelo yet not Andrade just speaks volumes about hearn’s personal bias.

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            • RoadMan94
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              #56
              Originally posted by Ragga1

              Haha, you’re so anti Hearn it hurts!

              He was the promoter all through Joshua’s career, sure Sky helped, AJ ducks no one and all of this has helped create his massive profile. It’s not just down to a promoter to make someone a big star. Imagine if Tony Yoka was promoted by Hearn? Both Olympic gold medalists but AJ has progressed much quicker than he has, in regards to how long Yoka has been a pro (I’m not dissing Yoka). You can pick any fighter/promoter combo that hasn’t worked. Look at Crawford/Arum? Sometimes the chemistry doesn’t match the potential.
              Joshua ducked wilder my dude. Before you start with “wilder admitted he ducked”

              he never.

              He explained how even though he felt Eddies offer for wilder to fight AJ was derogatory, it was still more than he made fighting fury, hence he kept his word in giving fury his rematch.

              Eddie ran to twitter like a vulture does to try and benefit from it, he knew his tweet would motivate Matchroom incels all over the world to put down their FleshLights for one hour a day and spam every comment section with “wilder admitted he ducked”

              Joshua ducked usyk until he couldn’t anymore. Joshua claims he did all he could to make the fury fight, if this is the case, We KNOW he didn’t do everything to fight wilder, did he?

              he didn’t offer 50/50, he didn’t sign contracts, he told his fans to train and fight wilder, he got his team to all give different reasons why he can’t fight wilder and bought Parker’s belt.

              and yer, I am replying twice, because I want to cover every base so that your brain can fully understand what’s going on here.

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              • RoadMan94
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                #57
                Originally posted by Joe Grizzley

                That's why he's chased Charlo's and Canelo down at pressers right?

                Hearn DAZN has simply been a scam. Promised a lot of guys big fights and didn't deliver.

                Can someone tell me what Hearn has delivered?
                Garcia - Vargas??? Lmfao!!! And the guys he feeds canelo, lose the fight and lose all motivation in their careers as the Canelo payday corrupts them
                look at Smith & Saunders for two prime examples. So Eddie is sacrificing his own guys in order to co promote events with Canelo to hopefully garner credibility from it.

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                • aaronbnb
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by paulf

                  Avoided? Sergio Martinez was avoided. So Martinez he moved up in weight to fight the most avoided man in boxing for no title and 300k. He became a draw himself through his accomplishments and earned his opportunities. He's one of the defining names of his era.

                  Andrade fought a string of bums and gave up his strap to avoid fighting the first halfway decent fighter on his resume in a decade because he's looking to cash out. He's not avoided, he's the one who has avoided the challenges necessary to build and brand and put himself in big fights (IE when he ducked Charlo). He's a nobody and will retire a nobody.
                  Exactly right. Sergio recognized he was avoided so he took on other avoided guys. He took huge risks for small paydays. He got lucky getting the Pavlik fight though. That was a huge break. Pavlik's matchmaking was terrible.

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                  • Joe Grizzley
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RoadMan94
                    Garcia - Vargas???
                    Is that really the biggest one? Man!

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                      #60
                      At this point, Hearn accepts than he’s been KTFO by America. Naive to think he had the testes or the business smarts to play in this sandbox.

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