Who wins Usyk vs Joshua 2? What should the odds be???

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  • hugh grant
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    #11
    I think Josh wins. Usyk too distracted this last month. But if usyk takes all his anger out on Josh, imagining Josh as *****, you never know.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 03-25-2022, 06:43 AM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

      It's not an impossible ask for Joshua, his gamelan in that last fight was the worst possible one he could have had.

      If he has a smart guy in his ear he's working on staying out of mid range. He can be outside, he can be inside, but he can't hang around at arms length and have a chess match.

      I've rewatched the fight a couple of times and it only becomes a blow out in the last 4 rounds, up to then it's fairly competitive, Joshua kept on going back to center ring though and Usyk had the big advantage there.

      I'm really looking forward to seeing his tactics in the rematch.
      Yes, I saw it similar. Had it 5-3 Usyk after 8, even though Usyk was clearly the better over those 8 rounds, Joshua did win rounds, so It was still tight and all to play for going into 9, but then, Usyk swept the board the last 4 rounds, and Joshua offered next to nothing. The lack of dog in him was worrying. That being said, I think he has so much on the line in the rematch, and after the criticism, he has no other choice but to fight very aggressively, old Joshua style. I still don't think it will work, but it's his only chance. He isn't winning a tactical battle, and as his stamina is not great, as the rounds tick by, it gets harder for him to click to switch from boxing to brawling. He needs to try and **** Usyk out early whilst his tank is full. Nash out.

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        #13
        Usyk looked levels above Joshua in the ring, he never got out of second gear.

        I'd make Usyk a 4/1 favorite.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
          You have to make Usyk a heavy favourite.

          The logic is Usyk just needs to do the same again and Joshua needs to perform a hell of a lot better.

          Physically I think Joshua has the ability to win, but his mindset remains a huge concern. In the first fight he was super tentative and I'd have thought after 4 or 5 rounds he might have thought to himself to just try blitz Usyk.

          A good example previously was when AJ came out in round 4 vs klitschko and just went on all out attack. I thought he might have a go like that but he seems to have lost the vitality of youth to do something like that and just cruised to a UD loss.

          ​​​​​​I'll know more in the press conferences and build up, if I see some edge to Joshua then I'd call it a more even fight but if he's Mr nice guy again then I expect the same result.
          Solid post and outlook on the fight. I think the same way. Size and physicality could be a win for AJ but he doesnt show the same fire he had earlier in his career. All Usyk has to do is repeat his performance and a timid AJ probably gets stopped this go round.

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            #15
            I don't know where Usyk's head is with everything going on. He can go into training and things gets worst. If he can mentally overcome that he should do well.

            On the other hand AJ can do a few adjustments and can beat Usyk. He has to fight like a big guy, make the little guy come to him, come in the shape he did against Ruiz 2.

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              #16
              From history we know that Joshua is not going to fight the same fight twice. So for sure, you can expect Joshua to at least come with a different preparation and game plan.

              I think he will come with the right game plan, and will win the fight.

              To be honest, getting bored with repeating things about this fight now. I have stated many times, Joshua just needs to be himself.

              Bring back his mid-range offense, learn how to tie a fighter up on the inside, and improve his jab. Joshua for a super heavyweight, has never really been able to fight a GOOD big man type of fight.

              Usyk you would think? Would of had to close the distance on Joshua. But none of this was the case. That would of not of happened vs Lennox Lewis or any other great super heavyweight.

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                #17
                AJ wins the rematch. He knows he didn't use his size

                I would say it probably odds wise gonna still see AJ as a very slight favorite...

                Probably -110 to max-150

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by denium
                  Usyk looked levels above Joshua in the ring, he never got out of second gear.

                  I'd make Usyk a 4/1 favorite.
                  How do you see Fury vs Usyk playing out?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LeOoze

                    How do you see Fury vs Usyk playing out?
                    I see Fury walking him down and putting a dent in Usyk's head.

                    Usyk would rack up a few rounds but eventually Tyson drowns him, too big, too strong, too much stamina and heart.

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                      #20
                      AJ has James Ali Bashir in his corner now. He's gonna mentally prepare Joshua to go out there and use his size to walk the smaller man down. He is also Usyk's former trainer. This fight won't go 12 rounds. I favor Usyk tho

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