Comments Thread For: Hearn on Canelo Matchmaking Criticism: He Can't Win! R?sum? Speaks for Itself

[Joe-Joe32212]

It doesn't matter what he does, he's hated on constantly. It gets tiring hearing everyone criticize him. He's a great fighter no matter what anyone says. He'll be in HOF at some point but no one wants to admit that. Eddie's right, he can't win no matter who he fights. Apparently he's ducking everybody. He's getting ready to fight a considerably larger man but everyone is still talking ****. Make it make sense.

[ShoulderRoll]

Beterbiev has a weak chin, yes he has power but no combination punches. Easy for canelo too. He is ducking them other fighter's

See, that's the problem right there.

This poster thinks Beterbiev is easy for Canelo...yet there are other posters who refuse to give Canelo any credit unless he fights Beterbiev! Canelo is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

How is he supposed to please all parties? The answer is he can't. So screw it, as long as he continues to fight the top guys in their weight class then he's doing just fine.

[Punisher33]

As far as Canelo is concerned, he's the best fighter in the world P4P. Fights 3 to 4 times a year (Were lucky if a champ fights twice in a year), most loaded resume of any current belt holder, and is fighting the 1 or 2 guy next at light heavy etc...

If I had my choice, I would go Charlo or Beterbiev. Though Bivol is a solid choice as well, just not exciting enough for me to see paying ppv money for. I cancelled my DAZN a few months ago, for them going back on their word of no PPV and lack of scheduled fights.

[P to the J]

Plant is European. Just born in America. Learn to see through the racial component given that is where most of the energy comes from.

Nah, with respect, I’m not doing that, because, (a) those same standards are applied to deny the equal citizenry rights due non-white people in European countries, and (b) if we are going to start using ethnicity to define people’s nationalities instead of their legal status, then everyone should know that the gene pool is so diverse that it not only renders nationality a scam, but destroys the notion of using skin colour to define someone’s heritage.

Historic migration patterns have diversified us to the extent that someone like Caleb Plant might have more genetically in common with someone whose family has lived in Mongolia or Mozambique for generations, than a white European.

Our modern ethnic categories are, hence, meaningless.

[champion4ever]

What? Triple G beat canelo bad the first fight and second I give it a draw, canelo has beaten paper Champs who won a vacant belt that where not even top contenders to fight for the belt. I used to be canelo fan but when he started cherry picking I lost all respect for him

I respect you. I get what you are saying but that was back in 2018. Today's version of GGG is now 40 years old. He just doesn't have it anymore. Which is why Canelo is cherry picking him several years of ducking him after their rematch.

He currently, looks like a washed up and ruined fighter. While he still has power; However he no longer has the same amount of stamina, hand to eye coordination and timing to put hurt opponents away.

I wouldn't be surprised if Golovkin is stopped in his next fight against Ryota Murata either.

[TMLT87]

Its unintentional praise really, guys that would not be considered cherry picks for everyone else suddenly become that when he fights them, because hes held to a different (higher) standard.

[champion4ever]

True boxing fans know, like him or not, Canelo is the man. His resume is the best out right now and it’s not even close. Only haters would argue that Canelo is ducking someone.

I know right? After fighting a bunch of unknown pricks like: Rocky fielding, Callum Smith, Avni Yildrim, Billy Joe Saunders, Caleb Plant and now Dmitry Bivol. What a freakin' joke? All of these guys have weak resume's. In any case, thanks for the jokes man! They were Comedy Gold!

[STREET CLEANER]

Beterbiev has a weak chin, yes he has power but no combination punches. Easy for canelo too. He is ducking them other fighter's

But he is skilled, big and a hard puncher. It would be an interesting fight.

[SteveM]

It doesn't matter what he does, he's hated on constantly. It gets tiring hearing everyone criticize him. He's a great fighter no matter what anyone says. He'll be in HOF at some point but no one wants to admit that. Eddie's right, he can't win no matter who he fights. Apparently he's ducking everybody. He's getting ready to fight a considerably larger man but everyone is still talking ****. Make it make sense.

Mate, he is already a LOCK for the HOF. Now it is just a question of whether he gets acknowledged as an ATG by career end.

[Caxcan]

I don't see this conversation going too far past this point so prepare to be entertained. "The biggest weak link" but GGG can't beat him actually nobody at 60 can, yet Canelo is scheduled to fight him & not Andrade. Make it make sense.. You can't. I guarantee you these "step ups" are outright lies or one sided stories & the people that beat them blatantly ran from Andrade like red head. But if you're a pessimist all you had to do was just say that.

You know what's funny? Tony Harrison was a world champ. Willie Nelson KO'd Tony, Andrade KO'd Willie, Vanes beat Willie. Andrade beat HIM too yet you won't say nothing about that. Yet if they had a belt slapped on them you'd value the wins more lol. I'd love to see you respond & address that specifically.

I keep reiterating my name is my name on here for a reason. Y'all not enlightened enough to disagree because your talking points are flimsy & easily dissected. Which is why more belts was created in boxing to impress ppl like you. He got staggered & rocked coming off a 15 month layoff against Williams. Not like that necessarily means anything but name the other fights & moments were he was staggered & rocked? Show me where you place your faith.

If the one who beat the most champs fought the one who "never beat a champ" in '15, '16, or '19 would he be the one who beat the most champs in '22? You'd have to really know boxing to know that answer cause it's obvious Canelo's privilege & blatant refusal of not having to acknowledge or fight Andrade isn't enough. But s/o to you for ignoring a large portion of what I said but harping on things that are just predicated on opinion.

I hope you're not referring to the Charlo Jacobs hallway incident. That's not a duck, if it's something else I need more info. Either way I've got on Charlo plenty of times. Watu said is vague. Canelo being held to a different standard could mean multiple things, you would have to expound. The Charlo one is iffy but I didn't say he ducked those dudes you named.

If you say Canelo can do what he wants or said undefeated champs have to "deserve" a fight with him. Then that's holding him to a different standard in itself. The rules have been different for him for a long time. But I never absolved dudes from fighting each other, this thread is just about Canelo. Bivol already fought Smith.

Well I hope you didn't think I would expect anything different from somebody with a Canelo avi & gifs in their signature lol. I can say blindfolded that Charlo doesn't stand a better chance than Andrade. We'll see if Benavidez & Andrade can be made its 50-50 imo, his promoter don't sound too confident. I gotta re-watch tape on Bivol but I know 100% he's not a better fighter than Andrade he's just bigger. He also doesn't have a better shot than David until further notice.

I will say this, the double standard reason on not fighting Andrade applies to Bivol more than Andrade yet Bivol getting the fight. The only one I'll give you is Beterbiev & even that's subject to change cause he's up there in age.. Naa dude lol he fighting good fighters but he ain't fighting no boogeymen. Last one he fought was GGG & he really lost to Jacobs by that time. Before Canelo even said he would fight the winner of all these dudes, Andrade BEEN said they can't wait on Canelo yet he's the only one Canelo is adamant about not fighting.

David said it but only when he lost his belt & leverage. Andrade & David to a lesser extent are not waiting for paydays they can't get fights "to get to him." Everybody he fought recently somebody wanted to fight. Heard rumors of Bivol ducking Zurdo. Canelo vs any of these dudes makes more $ than any of them vs each other. That "all them waiting for a payday" is tremendously overblown.

1st off it's only so many dudes that people wanna see fight 2nd them dudes in the mix hold up fights for other guys as well. 3rd not enough blame is being placed on the networks. I understand PBC's side not matching their guys more than Dazn's. But I also don't believe that's a coincidence. Hearn never made GGG Andrade, Andrade BJS, BJS Smith. This is a deeper problem he's benefiting off of. If I had to say any fighters was waiting for a payday. I'd say Jermall, GGG, & possibly Bivol.

But we can agree to disagree.

You're out here trying to give Andrade credit for gatekeeper triangle theories when he had better options? Not only did he pass on Jermell the first time, he was in line to face him a second time (after his win over Nelson), but he gave up his position just to pursue mandatory vs minor belt title holder Culcay (while also saying he would avoid super champ Lara). The dude swerved 2 champs just to fight for peanuts and a minor belt but you're calling him avoided. And that's just one of several opportunities he turned down.