Mayweather Sr. Accuses Pacquiao of Steroid Use

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  • syphillis
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    #191
    Originally posted by goblin
    WRONG..Freddie trained james toney and what dd toney test positive for??

    STEROIDS!! manny is CLEARLY juicing guys..i cant believe u would all defend this..SUCH a shame to be honest..
    I agree. All trainee Freddie's had juiced up, including DLH. So the fight he had with Shane all evens out.

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    • Al Haymon
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      #192
      Originally posted by syphillis
      IMO, Bruce Lee is more ripped and he did not fight for a living. Maybe genetics and hard work has something to do with. I don't know... just maybe.
      OK. I just fell down the rabbit hole. Dude is talking Bruce Lee.

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      • syphillis
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        #193
        Originally posted by Al Haymon
        OK. I just fell down the rabbit hole. Dude is talking Bruce Lee.
        I'm sorry. I guess I should have compared Pac's "ripness" to Al Bundy.

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        • Spear
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          #194
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Spear... did you listen to the tape? The whole tape?

          He said that a lot of "those guys" are on roids and nobody is talking about it. That part is true. I have heard how roids are prevalent in boxing. I have heard speculation about Manny. I don't know who else has.

          Be honest, weren't you surprised when fatbody James Toney was on roids repeatedly? Who was his trainer?

          You compare him to Jose Canseco and that's cool ... please remember that Canseco's credibility was initially questioned also. Right?
          that's what im trying to tell you! you thought my post was me questioning mayweather sr's inside knowledge about boxing. i was not. i was questioning whether he has experience with steroid usage as a fighter & as a trainer to have the balls to assume about another fighter. canseco is a admitted steroid user & is called the godfather of steroids in baseball. is floyd sr the same with inside knowledge about steroids?

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          • Quarty
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            #195
            sr is on pipe again!

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            • rao007
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              #196
              Originally posted by Al Haymon
              Spear... did you listen to the tape? The whole tape?

              He said that a lot of "those guys" are on roids and nobody is talking about it. That part is true. I have heard how roids are prevalent in boxing. I have heard speculation about Manny. I don't know who else has.

              Be honest, weren't you surprised when fatbody James Toney was on roids repeatedly? Who was his trainer?

              You compare him to Jose Canseco and that's cool ... please remember that Canseco's credibility was initially questioned also. Right?
              If you heard James Toney, he never blamed Roach, he blamed it on the surgeries and they (doctors) gave Toney steroids to heal. Is there another fighter of Roach who was tested positive?

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              • El Angel
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                #197
                I can't believe he said that

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                • rawr
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                  #198
                  anyone know how these roid test are given out to boxers, if at all? is the boxing commision lenient to boxers about steriods like the MLB? or is like others say, that certain illegal supplements are just getting harder and harder to detect through such tests...?

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                  • Al Haymon
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Spear
                    that's what im trying to tell you! you thought my post was me questioning mayweather sr's inside knowledge about boxing. i was not. i was questioning whether he has experience with steroid usage as a fighter & as a trainer to have the balls to assume about another fighter. canseco is a admitted steroid user & is called the godfather of steroids in baseball. is floyd sr the same with inside knowledge about steroids?
                    Remember... these guys are in the boxing game EVERY DAY... they are in the gym EVERY DAY.

                    you have guys like mosley, vargas, botha, jones, holyfield, toney, etc who all did roids. The same way that so many of the baseball players got the juice from the same couple of guys, it is feasible that boxing works the same way. Is that a fair statement?

                    at its core, the boxing community is very small. I dunno if you work out or belong to a gym. Ya know how you see a guy at the gym and say, "damn, he's beast"? And then someone says, "yeah, he's on D-bol"? I'm sure boxing gyms work the same way.

                    Still, FMS provided his opinion. We'll take it for what it is. Me? i'll just file it away. If i hear more about pac, then i will have serious doubts about Pac being clean.

                    In THIS day and age, you would be super-naive to ignore rumours.

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                    • chinoy
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                      #200
                      Sr is so insecure of Pacman that he is willing to stoop this low to discredit Pacman.....

                      Sr does have money but this only shows that money can NEVER buy class

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