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  • #51
    Originally posted by tritium_arma View Post

    That's not saying much. Under 400k views for his fight against Montiel. Under 100k PPV buys for his last ppv.
    You know of someone more popular than Charlo throwing money at Mungia? And I believe the words that guy used were tigers superstar. That means crossover appeal. From what I can tell a lot of people want to see this fight so how can he pass on it and ultimately crossover?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Javcar View Post

      you think you’re insider. How cute. Read the article next time
      you don’t need to be an insider to know golden boy always has a reason to F up a deal. You seem extra sensitive about that. Do you work for them? Perhaps you clean the toilets at their headquarters.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

        Andrade has been criticized for quality of opposition, and facing Rosado/Ballard would've done nothing to change that. I didn't like Rosado coming down to face Munguia, but Munguia is still young and Rosado is a gatekeeper. Andrade hasn't been able to get Munguia or Jermall in the ring even-though those match-ups are logical to make. I feel like Andrade should've stayed at 160 and faced Zhanibek, but maybe he's having trouble making MW and doesn't believe it makes sense to stay at a division where he's being frozen out. Andrade is relying on the sanctioning bodies to get him fights, but it won't work in the long run because ABC bodies can't be trusted.
        Zhanibek doesn't bring in the money that Munguia does in the U.S., and Parker will do in the UK! Nobody knows Zhanibek! I've been giving Hearn the business, for Andrade's lack of opponents, but I have to put the blame for no Andrade vs. Munguia on DAZN, ON OSCAR! At this point, it looks like Munguia loses out on GGG, Charlo, Andrade, and Zhanibek! No bueno!

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
          Zhanibek doesn't bring in the money that Munguia does in the U.S., and Parker will do in the UK! Nobody knows Zhanibek! I've been giving Hearn the business, for Andrade's lack of opponents, but I have to put the blame for no Andrade vs. Munguia on DAZN, ON OSCAR! At this point, it looks like Munguia loses out on GGG, Charlo, Andrade, and Zhanibek! No bueno!
          Hearn would've most likely outbid Arum for Andrade vs. Zhanibek though. I guess it depends on what's more important: more $$$ or promotional control. If Andrade/Parker is close, we can infer that Parker is getting the nod. Andrade is capable of beating both opponents, but it's less likely that he'll win on a Queensbury promoted card, than if he was figthing on a Matchroom card.
          Last edited by kiaba360; 03-13-2022, 07:48 AM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

            Hearn would've most likely outbid Arum for Andrade vs. Zhanibek though. I guess it depends on what's more important: more $$$ or promotional control. If Andrade/Parker is close, we can infer that Parker is getting the nod. Andrade is capable of beating both opponents, but it's less likely that he'll win on a Queensbury promoted card, than if he was figthing on a Matchroom card.
            I just realized which post you responded too/ I edited that because I meant to say DAZN should of made Andrade vs. Munguia, instead of Munguia vs. Rosad & Ballard." Anyway, I don't know if Hearn would've won the purse bid? They haven't been doing well with winning purse bids! Andrade vs. Munguia should not have needed a purse bid! 2 fighters on the same platform should be able to make a deal! 2 fighters on different platforms are harder to make! In this case, I think SHO made a very fair offer. I read the ESPN article, and it seems Oscar did not respond by Noon PT, on Friday, so the whole deal folded! Maybe Oscar was high at the time?
            Last edited by Bronx2245; 03-13-2022, 07:57 AM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              DAZN should have made Andrade vs. Munguia instead of Munguia vs. Rosado & Ballard!
              SHO should make Charlo vs. Adames instead of Charlo v Mungia (& Montell)!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by James Hunt View Post

                SHO should make Charlo vs. Adames instead of Charlo v Mungia (& Montell)!
                Because Oscar did not respond to the offer to fight Charlo, even though PBC gave DAZN rights to the fight in Mexico & the UK, the WBC has now ordered Munguia vs. Adames (again) for the right to become Charlo's mandatory! The purse bid will be held on Tuesday! What I think PBC/SHO should do is Jermall Charlo vs. David Morrell Jr. @ 168! Charlo could become the WBA "Regular" Champion, and that would put him closer to fighting Canelo for the WBA "Super" Champion! It would also give Charlo a taste of fighting @ 168! Charlo's targets should be Benavidez and Canelo! 160 is weak right now!

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                • #58
                  Make it happen some way, some how. Three months until June 18 so both parties have some time to figure it out.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    I just realized which post you responded too/ I edited that because I meant to say DAZN should of made Andrade vs. Munguia, instead of Munguia vs. Rosad & Ballard." Anyway, I don't know if Hearn would've won the purse bid? They haven't been doing well with winning purse bids! Andrade vs. Munguia should not have needed a purse bid! 2 fighters on the same platform should be able to make a deal! 2 fighters on different platforms are harder to make! In this case, I think SHO made a very fair offer. I read the ESPN article, and it seems Oscar did not respond by Noon PT, on Friday, so the whole deal folded! Maybe Oscar was high at the time?
                    Arum would not want to pay for Andrade/Zhanibek because Andrade would be getting the lion's share and Zhanibek doesn't have much marquee value; I think Hearn wouldn't have to bid too high to get it.

                    Who needs the fight more, Jermall or Munguia?
                    Last edited by kiaba360; 03-13-2022, 08:52 AM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

                      Arum would not want to pay for Andrade/Zhanibek because Andrade would be getting the lion's share and Zhanibek doesn't have much marquee value; I think Hearn wouldn't have to bid too high to get it.

                      Who needs the fight more, Jermall or Munguia?
                      I think Jermall has better options, if he has some courage! His target should be Benavidez! That fight would be much easier to make, and if he beat Benavidez, I'm sure he would get the winner of Canelo vs. GGG in 2023! I think Charlo should face David Morrell Jr. @ 168 next! If he beats him (big IF) he becomes closer to fighting Canelo for the WBA "Super" Champion! If no Canelo, then Benavidez is a GREAT Plan B!

                      At this point, Munguia is kind of F-kd! The WBC has ordered a purse bid for Tuesday for Munguia vs. Adames! The WBO has moved on from Munguia vs. Zhanibek! Andrade is fighting Parker @ 168, and Canelo is fighting GGG in September, so no GGG for Munguia! I think PBC/SHO made a very good offer! The fighters agreed to the money, and PBC gave the rights to DAZN for UK & Mexico! That's a lot from the Champion to give to a Challenger! I don't know how GBP passed on that?

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