Paulie on Floyd n manny is manny overrated?

[Dominicankingofboxing]

Personally I think manny is a bum he lost about like 9 times to fighters like ugas Marquez morales Barrera all boxers 3 of them lighter weights been knocked out mad times he's not a boxer he's a brawler that's why Floyd beat him easily when he fought cotton Hatton Margarito and mosley he was on peds a lot of Freddie's fighters use drugs Pacquiao is not a hall of famer he's a drug cheat bum glad ugas beat him spence would have smoked him people only like Pacquiao cause he got that fake good guy bull**** image and cause of his sloppy brawls he never could beat a good boxer manny is overrated to me

[QueensburyRules]

Personally I think manny is a bum he lost about like 9 times to fighters like ugas Marquez morales Barrera all boxers 3 of them lighter weights been knocked out mad times he's not a boxer he's a brawler that's why Floyd beat him easily when he fought cotton Hatton Margarito and mosley he was on peds a lot of Freddie's fighters use drugs Pacquiao is not a hall of famer he's a drug cheat bum glad ugas beat him spence would have smoked him people only like Pacquiao cause he got that fake good guy bull**** image and cause of his sloppy brawls he never could beat a good boxer manny is overrated to me

- - Nah, jus U and BigMouth Paulie being underdummed.

[Dominicankingofboxing]

- - Nah, jus U and BigMouth Paulie being underdummed.

Take manny d out your mouth u lame low life u sucking his balls too much u don't get paid for that u chump u broke and giving me attention the truth hurts I schooled u on boxing u throw insults because u a old ****** it's okay ****** troll lol manny still sucks

[famicommander]

W vs Chatchai Sasakul KO 8
L vs Medgoen Singsurat TKO 3
W vs Lehlohonolo Ledwaba TKO 6
D vs Agapito Sanchez TD 6
W vs Jorge Eliecer Julio TKO 2
W vs Marco Antonio Barrera TKO 11
D vs Juan Manquel Marquez SD 12
L vs Erik Morales UD 12
W vs Erik Morales TKO 10
W vs Oscar Larios UD 12
W vs Erik Morales KO 3
W vs Marco Antonio Barrera UD 12
W vs Juan Manuel Marquez SD 12
W vs David Diaz TKO 9
W vs Oscar De La Hoya RTD 8
W vs Ricky Hatton KO 2
W vs Miguel Cotto TKO 12
W vs Joshua Clottey UD 12
W vs Antonio Margarito UD 12
W vs Shane Mosley UD 12
W vs Juan Manuel Marquez MD 12
L vs Timothy Bradley SD 12
L vs Juan Manquel Marquez KO 6
W vs Brandon Rios UD 12
W vs Timothy Bradley UD 12
W vs Chris Algieri UD 12
L vs Floyd Mayweather UD 12
W vs Timothy Bradley UD 12
W vs Jessie Vargas UD 12
L vs Jeff Horn UD 12
W vs Adrien Broner UD 12
W vs Keith Thurman SD 12
L vs Yordenis Ugas UD 12

Some robbery wins and draws (Marquez 3X), some robbery losses (Horn, Bradley) so it mostly evens out. Didn't include WBA Regular titlists like Matthysse but did include one WBO champion from back when only one of the other big 3 recognized them. Swap them out if you want.

In any case, Pacquiao vs big 4 world titlists (top champions only): 24-7-2

I don't know how you can criticize that resume. He wasn't the best of his era but he's a clear first ballot hall of famer.

[BodyBagz]

W vs Chatchai Sasakul KO 8
L vs Medgoen Singsurat TKO 3
W vs Lehlohonolo Ledwaba TKO 6
D vs Agapito Sanchez TD 6
W vs Jorge Eliecer Julio TKO 2
W vs Marco Antonio Barrera TKO 11
D vs Juan Manquel Marquez SD 12
L vs Erik Morales UD 12
W vs Erik Morales TKO 10
W vs Oscar Larios UD 12
W vs Erik Morales KO 3
W vs Marco Antonio Barrera UD 12
W vs Juan Manuel Marquez SD 12
W vs David Diaz TKO 9
W vs Oscar De La Hoya RTD 8
W vs Ricky Hatton KO 2
W vs Miguel Cotto TKO 12
W vs Joshua Clottey UD 12
W vs Antonio Margarito UD 12
W vs Shane Mosley UD 12
W vs Juan Manuel Marquez MD 12
L vs Timothy Bradley SD 12
L vs Juan Manquel Marquez KO 6
W vs Brandon Rios UD 12
W vs Timothy Bradley UD 12
W vs Chris Algieri UD 12
L vs Floyd Mayweather UD 12
W vs Timothy Bradley UD 12
W vs Jessie Vargas UD 12
L vs Jeff Horn UD 12
W vs Adrien Broner UD 12
W vs Keith Thurman SD 12
L vs Yordenis Ugas UD 12

Some robbery wins and draws (Marquez 3X), some robbery losses (Horn, Bradley) so it mostly evens out. Didn't include WBA Regular titlists like Matthysse but did include one WBO champion from back when only one of the other big 3 recognized them. Swap them out if you want.

In any case, Pacquiao vs big 4 world titlists (top champions only): 24-7-2

I don't know how you can criticize that resume. He wasn't the best of his era but he's a clear first ballot hall of famer.

Pac's WW resume is a joke.
The stuff before it was meh.

He had a fan friendly style and persona.
If he were an arrogant shlt talker, his resume would be getting a more honest review.

[LeOoze]

Pac's WW resume is a joke.
The stuff before it was meh.

He had a fan friendly style and persona.
If he were an arrogant shlt talker, his resume would be getting a more honest review.

I agree him at 147 is meh, but

His win over Barrera was dope, MAB had a good run after that loss. Him beating Marquez too. And that’s about it actually. I don’t give him much credit for Morales because he was coming from an L and moving down in weight

[BodyBagz]

I agree him at 147 is meh, but

His win over Barrera was dope, MAB had a good run after that loss. Him beating Marquez too. And that’s about it actually. I don’t give him much credit for Morales because he was coming from an L and moving down in weight

Not enough solid wins, imho.
Eric, Marco and even JMM style's were perfect for Pac.
Only JMM had more left in the tank and gave Pac fits in every fight (arguably getting the best of the 4)

Everyone Pac fought (WHEN he fought them), an impartial fight fan can see May beating every one of them and retiring with a 70-0;65 kos record.

[Dosser]

SNIP

Easy
He got MAB and Morales after the had a rematch and took crazy damage, he was positioned. Remove them both.
I think he lost to JMM, every time.
Oscar was shot, remove him.
Hatton had just been flattoned, remove him.
Cotto has just been stopped brutally, remove him.
Margarito had just been starched by Shane and at a catchweight, remove.
Shane was crazy shot, remove.

What is left is this.

W vs Chatchai Sasakul KO 8
L vs Medgoen Singsurat TKO 3
W vs Lehlohonolo Ledwaba TKO 6
D vs Agapito Sanchez TD 6
W vs Jorge Eliecer Julio TKO 2
W vs Oscar Larios UD 12
W vs David Diaz TKO 9
W vs Joshua Clottey UD 12
L vs Timothy Bradley SD 12
W vs Brandon Rios UD 12
W vs Timothy Bradley UD 12
W vs Chris Algieri UD 12
W vs Timothy Bradley UD 12
W vs Jessie Vargas UD 12
L vs Jeff Horn UD 12
W vs Adrien Broner UD 12
W vs Keith Thurman SD 12
L vs Yordenis Ugas UD 12

Not that great.

[BodyBagz]

Personally I think manny is a bum he lost about like 9 times to fighters like ugas Marquez morales Barrera all boxers 3 of them lighter weights been knocked out mad times he's not a boxer he's a brawler that's why Floyd beat him easily when he fought cotton Hatton Margarito and mosley he was on peds a lot of Freddie's fighters use drugs Pacquiao is not a hall of famer he's a drug cheat bum glad ugas beat him spence would have smoked him people only like Pacquiao cause he got that fake good guy bull**** image and cause of his sloppy brawls he never could beat a good boxer manny is overrated to me

His eyes are too buggy and his voice is worse. Couldn't tolerate it longer than 2 seconds

I don't know what Paulina said but if his pov is Pac is a fraud, I agree.

Pac is a HOFer due to popularity and a bunch of wins....vs a bunch of guys at their worst.
As in MLB, 3000 hits is reason enough to get into the HOF.
In this 2-4 fights a year era, accumulating 60+ wins is the equivalent ?

Pac is definitely not as great as he's made out to be. His excuses and string of lame opponents are NEVER discussed.
Lump him in with any popular guy with a fan friendly style. Excuses will definitely follow.

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