Comments Thread For: Hearn: I Think Joshua's Top Choice To Face in Interim-Fight is Wilder

[Toffee]

Wilder is still recovering, both physically and emotionally from that Fury beatdown. Probably still having night sweats over the thought of getting into the ring again. I doubt he would jump right into a fight with AJ if he does fight again. Besides, it would be a dumb move for AJ to risk a loss to Wilder which would then allow Wilder to take his place in a title fight with Usyk. Wilder doesn't deserve to be in any sort of contention for a title coming off of two consecutive KO losses.

Why would Wilder take his place in fighting Usyk?

It's a contractual rematch, not a mandatory.

[Marchegiano]

Lol in your eyes Joshua has never beaten a legitimate champion. In reality, factually, on paper he has beaten 3. Judging by Wilder's resume (and you base half of Fury's greatness on beating Wilder) before Fury how was he any more of a "legitimate" champion than Parker, Martin or Ruiz? You gotta keep credit giving or refusing at the same level you pick and choose how you do here and it just sounds salty.

However I agree about the 3rd if lucky. You know I'm a big fan but I definitely put Fury 1 and Usyk 2 and a Wilder fight goes either way, Wilder is utter dog 5hit but has a fast big right and Joshua is a better Boxer but can't take a punch.

But you just don't want to acknowledge a single thing Joshua has achieved cuz you are a Fury fan and a Hearn hater.

There's a reason why we keep track of defenses.

There's also an old adage that says no man crowned is really a champion until he defends his title.

One doesn't disregard numbers for level unless they mean to write some propaganda. If you agree those names fought on the same level as Wilder and made what a quarter of the defenses together? Combined? Then you agree they are all three lesser champions.

Martin made a defense?
Ruiz?
Parker made what 2?

What makes Deontay Wilder more legit?

[GhostofDempsey]

Why would Wilder take his place in fighting Usyk?

It's a contractual rematch, not a mandatory.

If AJ loses to Wilder, there's no way he'll hold his place in a rematch with Usyk. Besides, there is no upside for AJ to fight Wilder now. Wilder has no title and he's coming off two KO losses. AJ can make a great pay day fighting just about anyone more deserving until the Usyk/Ukraine situation is resolved. If Usyk isn't fighting and gets stripped, an AJ/Joe Joyce fight is much more compelling and a bigger fight than Wilder. Especially in the U.K.

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There's a reason why we keep track of defenses.

There's also an old adage that says no man crowned is really a champion until he defends his title.

One doesn't disregard numbers for level unless they mean to write some propaganda. If you agree those names fought on the same level as Wilder and made what a quarter of the defenses together? Combined? Then you agree they are all three lesser champions.

Martin made a defense?
Ruiz?
Parker made what 2?

What makes Deontay Wilder more legit?

Exactly.

Martin, Ruiz & Parker were not real champions, they were belt holders.

Klitschko was a unified champion who had barely lost a round in 12 years and Wilder was an unbeaten 5yr WBC champion who tied for title defences with Ali when Fury dethroned them.

Those two wins on their own gives Fury the best resume in the division.

[DaNeutral.]

There's a reason why we keep track of defenses.

There's also an old adage that says no man crowned is really a champion until he defends his title.

One doesn't disregard numbers for level unless they mean to write some propaganda. If you agree those names fought on the same level as Wilder and made what a quarter of the defenses together? Combined? Then you agree they are all three lesser champions.

Martin made a defense?
Ruiz?
Parker made what 2?

What makes Deontay Wilder more legit?

Who did Wilder defend against that makes us go wow? We're they the cream of the division? You can defend a hundred times while avoiding the more dangerous contenders. By all means roll your eyes but you are talking crap.

Also considering Fury is praised for holding all 4 titles and the ring title I am only aware of him ever defending 1 title once. Yet he is seen as the number 1 man in the division.

[topo5358]

If Joshua fights Wilder his career ends. These guys keep talking crap about Wilder's opposition and turn around and speak of Fury as the second coming of Ali, not realizing that in 2 fights Wilder put Fury down more times than Ali was knocked down in HIS CAREER. Those views don't go together. Either Wilder's a real dangerous guy or Fury is a whole lot less than he's given credit for. IMO they are short-changing Wilder. Also, Wilder also knocked Fury down more in those 2 fights than Fury had been down in the other 30 fights in his career. Fluke?? 4 times?

[Marchegiano]

Who did Wilder defend against that makes us go wow? We're they the cream of the division? You can defend a hundred times while avoiding the more dangerous contenders. By all means roll your eyes but you are talking crap.

Also considering Fury is praised for holding all 4 titles and the ring title I am only aware of him ever defending 1 title once. Yet he is seen as the number 1 man in the division.

I didn't start this with the premise Parker, Martin, and Ruiz were just as valid champions as Wilder because they fought at the same level as he did...That's your premise bud, I just said number of defenses matter and if you're giving up the levels argument as you had then you've already explained why Wilder is more respected.

In terms of defenses Parker's you only man because the other two failed theirs....to the same man, and, in terms of defenses Parker's best is Hughie.

Wilder had defeated 3 top ten HWs in title defenses by then.

Performance wise, loads of people think Parker got gifts in his best fights. He has Ruiz and Hughie on his resume....kinda...anyone with eyes knows he lost those though.

Conversely, Wilder was splitting the gloves of former HW champion Bermane Stiverne that year. Surely you saw the memes that followed.

Which brings me to my next point, in terms of their title fights, Martin won a vacant belt. Parker won a vacant belt. Wilder lifted his belt off a champion who won a vacant belt.

Ruiz becomes your man there. Ruiz who got absolutely out classed in his sole attempt at a title defense.

So if you take Parker and Ruiz and make them one person then you've an argument for a champion as legitimate as Wilder if not more, but as individuals, those chumps didn't do **** and Deontay did.

Also Ruiz got his ass taxed by nips and Wilder beat TF out of him....as a title defense.

[Rbs3rd]

Here we are again. This is still a GREAT fight. And we shouldve got it a few years ago. It probably wont happen for the same reasons it didnt happen then. Because boxing fans are absolute trash a$$ fans. You dumb muh’fkaz are making up the same dumb excuses. “Who has wilder fought” and “there are other fighters more deserving”. HA!!! WHO??? Wilder just gave us one of the best efforts against Fury that we’ve seen in recent years. Win lose or draw, He’s gonna leave it all in the ring. And i believe AJ will also. Somebody’s goin to sleep in this one folks. Aint that what we want in a heavyweight fight???!! Nope, yall just want see your fav fighters fight trash competition and hold on to there “title holder” dreams. GTFOH!!! Boxing fans suck.

[REDEEMER]

Here we are again. This is still a GREAT fight. And we shouldve got it a few years ago. It probably wont happen for the same reasons it didnt happen then. Because boxing fans are absolute trash a$$ fans. You dumb muh’fkaz are making up the same dumb excuses. “Who has wilder fought” and “there are other fighters more deserving”. HA!!! WHO??? Wilder just gave us one of the best efforts against Fury that we’ve seen in recent years. Win lose or draw, He’s gonna leave it all in the ring. And i believe AJ will also. Somebody’s goin to sleep in this one folks. Aint that what we want in a heavyweight fight???!! Nope, yall just want see your fav fighters fight trash competition and hold on to there “title holder” dreams. GTFOH!!! Boxing fans suck.

Anyone logical can see Wilders never wanted to fight A.J . Even his latest response is himself still making excuses why the fight won’t happen yesterday when proposed a possible offer ,even if down the line was completely shot down . Like I stated on here you can’t make fighters fight certain guys if they are unwilling to actually make the effort in making it .

Had Wilders fans put pressure on him instead of placing blame on the side trying to make the fight since 2018 maybe we would have got that one but Wilder made it clear he has no intentions of stepping in the ring with A.J I don’t believe he would coming back after two bad knockout losses and go out his way to face any legit top boxer with a punch ,I think it’s over for him mentally he’s gone he sounds like he’s just going to revert to the old Wilder if he comes back .