Zab Judah vs Mayweather Question!! Am i the only one.

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  • Ekscape
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    #21
    Originally posted by larry x
    no no and hell no..floyd often loses the first few rounds figuring out his opponents..zab didnt stop doing anthing..floyd just took over,,he got zabs timing down and figured him out and destroyed him....zabs a world class fighter..and floyd broke him down to the point of frustration...floyd doesnt get enough credit for that win
    Yeah I remember round 5 Floyd went to work HARD on Judah just started to decimate him round by round it was pretty amazing to me... Then came the "low blow" due to Judah's frustrations
    Last edited by Ekscape; 09-15-2009, 10:38 AM.

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    • King Jaffe Joffer
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      #22
      Originally posted by larry x
      there was no knockdown..zab stepped on floyds foot..thats why it wasnt counted..would you like to see the picture
      Yes, I would

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      • Jiddu Dali
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        #23
        Originally posted by MoneyMay1
        Zab is a world class fighter alright, but there seems to be a little confusion as to why he lost that fight against Floyd. It wasn't simply because Zab started off strong and then suddenly ran out of gas towards the middle of the fight, although that could be part of it.

        What I saw is at the beginning of that fight Zab was landing his right jab efficiently, which was setting up hooks, straight lefts, and left uppercuts. By the middle rounds Floyd began to neutralize Zab's jab, causing him to become frustrated and resort to "head-hunting mode." I always thought Zab was an underachiever as well, but I do realize that everything Zab does well starts with his right jab. I did think Floyd went down in that fight, although he was not hurt. Once Zab's jab stopped landing, his footwork looked terrible, and you could tell by the look on his face he was fighting out of desperation. Tell me what you think.

        -Cody
        By the middle rounds?...lol....U mean the 4th round? from the 4th to the 12th he was dominated..

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        • larry x
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          #24
          look at my avator...zabs on floyds foot..hense no knockdown was called

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          • larry x
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            #25
            Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
            Yes, I would
            look at my avator

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            • arraamis
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              #26
              Originally posted by zalez787
              Am i the only person that thinks Judah could have taken that fight if he was a lil more disciplined?

              He was taking it to floyd at the begining , landing more effective shots , he was looking way faster using that jab a lot , Floyd at times looked clueless as to what he wanted to do or what he could actually throw and land. I think that was zab's complete **** up. From there on he just became garbage. Too bad he was a good fighter.
              Nonsense! - Floyd was a little overly cautious in the early rounds and had yet to solve the puzzle of what Zab was doing that night. By the 5th round, Floyd was in a zone and was starting to dog Zab.

              No way Zab could have won that fight.....

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              • djtmal
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                #27
                Originally posted by Ravishing
                That's the Zab Judah story in a nutshell. Stars off really good, then forgets he's actually fighting to win.

                Zab's mental game has always been ****

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                • MOTHER DUCKER
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by larry x
                  no no and hell no..floyd often loses the first few rounds figuring out his opponents..zab didnt stop doing anthing..floyd just took over,,he got zabs timing down and figured him out and destroyed him....zabs a world class fighter..and floyd broke him down to the point of frustration...floyd doesnt get enough credit for that win

                  Exactly man..

                  People are allways like if Dela Hoya kept throwing the jab he would beat Floyd etc.. why the **** do you think he stopped throwing it if it was so effective huh? cause Floyd worked it out. Same thing will happen this weekend Floyd will probably give up a couple rounds early then take over and prob KO marquz.

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                  • Al Haymon
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by zalez787
                    Am i the only person that thinks Judah could have taken that fight if he was a lil more disciplined?

                    He was taking it to floyd at the begining , landing more effective shots , he was looking way faster using that jab a lot , Floyd at times looked clueless as to what he wanted to do or what he could actually throw and land. I think that was zab's complete **** up. From there on he just became garbage. Too bad he was a good fighter.
                    A HUGE part of what makes a fighter is the ability to adjust and use ring intelligence. Floyd has it. Zab doesn't. Consistency is a skill. That is what keeps Clottey from being an elite fighter.

                    Floyd adjusted to Zab, and shut Zab down. It wasn't Zab's discipline. It was Zab's inability to deal with what Floyd was doing.

                    If you go back and watch the fight, you will see what happened. Watch with the sound off and look for these things:

                    1) Floyd shifted from the Philly Shell (shoulder roll) to the High Guard defense.
                    2) Floyd continuously closed the distance on Zab and made Zab keep having to shift his feet. Zab isn't a good fighter going backwards, and he can't explode with the left hand.
                    3) After Zab landed that great left hand that forced Floyd back to the ropes, look what happens 15 secons later. FMJ digs four hard shots to Zab's body that took all the steam out of Judah.
                    4) Floyd didn't try to punch hard up top. Instead he just decided to 'put hands" on zab. Kinda like Nick Diaz (MMA) does. It wears you down to be punched that much, and it bloodied Zab's nose and mouth. It is frustrating.
                    5) Even when Zab landed, Floyd kept coming in. pressure, pressure, pressure.

                    THAT is what happened in the fight. See this video...Judah lands a great shot at 7:40. Floyd remains calm, comes off the ropes. now look at the body shots floyd digs to Judah's body between 8:00 and 8;30.


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                    • Al Haymon
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                      #30
                      Hey ARRAAMIS,

                      I tried to upload a pic of my gym to my sig. For some reason, the pic is real small.

                      Anyway, you can kinda see what I was doing. The heavy bag is way off to the right, and it is cropped.

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