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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

    That makes zero since. Crawford re-signed with Top Rank with the understanding that he was going to get a Manny fight after a good showing vs Viktor Postol. How the hell is that evidence that he was afraid of Spence who hadn't even won a world title yet and Crawford wasn't even in the division. Crawford then EXTENDED his contract after the Horn fight with promises from his promoter that he would get a Thurman, Porter, Danny, Manny, or Spence fight.......Only man who didn't do their job was Bob Arum.....but let's not act like the PBC fighters made it easy to negotiate a fight with them.

    -Thurman wanted nothing to do with Crawford while having a title. After the Manny loss, he then demanded a contract from Top Rank.....he had no title at that point...Even had the nerve to allegedly request $10M....more than double his largest purse of his career.
    -Danny didn't even respond to a $3M offer. He didn't even want a title shot as he had already lost to Porter. If he didn't like the offer, why not send a counteroffer. Instead he and his camp admitted that they didn't even respond to Bob.
    -Porter ignore a question about a unification bout on the Showtime Boxing show 3x. It got to a point they had to ask him specifically about Crawford. Then after he lost to Spence, his daddy went to social media demanding Crawford fight his son....where was the energy when he had a title. Bob sent 2 offers to the Porter camp. $1M and a $2.5M offer. Not a great offer but not a bad offer for someone who had nothing to bring to the table and had lost to every elite fighter their had faced. Porter was also the mandatory for 18 months yet never reached out the the WBO suggesting that he was interested in a title shot. The WBO were the ones who reported that when they moved Porter down to #2 and moved Virgil Ortiz up. When the Manny fight didn't manifest, it was Crawford's camp that reached out to the WBO in attempt at making a Porter fight because Bob Arum wasn't making an honest attempt at doing so.
    -Spence required Crawford to prove he can compete at the 147 weight and gain a world title before he would "consider" negotiations, yet, he was okay with a 135 lb champion (Mikey Garcia) jumping 2 divisions to face him. Spence also fought Danny Garcia & attempted to negotiate with Ugas before he won an actual title.

    These are all factual statements. How is that evidence that Crawford is the one afraid.......mnot even saying that Spence is afraid, but it's silly to think Crawford would be.
    When you want a fight, you show it. When you don’t want the fight, you show it as well.

    Crawford had the option to leave TR and sign with PBC. He didn’t. I’m not saying he is scared. I’m simply saying he had a chance to make it happen, he didn’t.

    I think says much more than Spence giving a stock answer to a repeated question.

    I am sure that every single person that blames Spence would blame Crawford if he was with PBC and Spence with TR.






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    • A_State501
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      #102
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      When you want a fight, you show it. When you don’t want the fight, you show it as well.

      Crawford had the option to leave TR and sign with PBC. He didn’t. I’m not saying he is scared. I’m simply saying he had a chance to make it happen, he didn’t.

      I think says much more than Spence giving a stock answer to a repeated question.

      I am sure that every single person that blames Spence would blame Crawford if he was with PBC and Spence with TR.





      If you listen to the interview Spence stated that he shouldn't have been talking in public because fighters have egos and nobody wants to be told what to do. He also said that it's his goal to have all the belts at 147 take that how you want.

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      • Str8.2.Da.Point
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        #103
        Originally posted by hitmanjosh

        so he still have the majority of the belts and should have a third one if he prevails against Ugas. I think to make the fight Crawford needs to bend at the waist and I’m sticking to it!
        Crawford has earned 6 world titles. Never been stripped. Never been defeated. And is currently the welterweight WBO champ. You don't get extra points just because you were able to fight 2 faulty champions and avoid another. How the hell are you and other commending Spence for doing that.

        He's openly deciding NOT to fight TC who is a world champion, just so he can easily fight lesser competition in hopes to over price himself and get Crawford to fight for less than he's worth or choose to deny the terms. You support that ***** ass action?....... This man calls himself the Boogie Man but looking to find the easy route to accolades. Crawford has been wanting to fight the best and he is the one being ridiculed all because his PROMOTER couldn't give those bouts for him. But it's not like the rival promoter was willing make the fight either.

        Mfers are weird. And y'all call yourselves "boxing fans"........ There is nothing Spence has done in the ring that makes him more worth of a big payday than Crawford period.... Just because he fought some names that American fighters recognize doesn't mean he has fought better competition. Crawford has face 11 world champs. Spence has faced 5. Crawford stopped 8 world champs.....Spence stopped 1.......just 1. 4 of those world champs were undefeated before facing Crawford. Only undefeated champ Spence faced was the 135 lb champ who came up 2 divisions to fight him.....Mikey Garcia.

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        • Str8.2.Da.Point
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          #104
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          When you want a fight, you show it. When you don’t want the fight, you show it as well.

          Crawford had the option to leave TR and sign with PBC. He didn’t. I’m not saying he is scared. I’m simply saying he had a chance to make it happen, he didn’t.

          I think says much more than Spence giving a stock answer to a repeated question.

          I am sure that every single person that blames Spence would blame Crawford if he was with PBC and Spence with TR.





          Crawford re-signed with Top Rank back in 2016 with the promise that after the Viktor Postol he would get a shot at Freddie Roach's other fighter MANNY PACQUIAO. Y'all like quoting **** that makes zero sense but since someone else's said it on some YouTube channel then you go with it. Do the research yourself and see the missing facts that are purposely taken out.

          Why does a fighter need to breach his contract with his current promoter just to fight a champion with a different promotional banner. Cross promotion happens more times than not for the biggest fights. GGG/Canelo, Fury/Wilder, Floyd/Manny, Jacobs/Canelo, etc....

          Crawford resigning in 2016 means he wasn't trying to fight the top guys in a division he didn't join until 2 years later......Make it make sense. In 2018, Crawford signed an EXTENSION to his current contract as again what was negotiated was Bob Arum working to try and get unification bouts vs Thurman/Spence or the winner of the Porter/Danny fight. But clearly none of them were willing to get in the ring with Crawford until after they had lost their titles. Manny was no longer signed with Top Rank and clearly he was being kept away from Crawford for some weird reason.

          Crawford received promise after promise in these negotiations to keep him on Top Rank that never came through. And what he did was stay professional even when his name was being drug in the mud by his own promoter all the way up to the very last fight on his contract, then he walked away. That makes him a class act. He didn't create drama. He simply stated that his boss couldn't get him the fights he wanted so he was moving on. But you comprehend that as he didn't want the Spence fight?.......

          I didn't even point out that after he re-signed in 2016.....he fought 2 PBC fighters back to back, so clearly a cross promotion can be done if they actually want to make the fight happen....... Diaz and Molina were both on PBC contracts at the time of their Crawford bouts. But all of a sudden Crawford moves to 147 and he now has to breach his contract with Top Rank and sign with PBC........And that doesn't guarantee the fight either because Thurman & Spence never fought.....so clearly, Spence is choosing who not to fight. But he had no problem fighting 2 guys who lost to Thurman Danny & Porter. And he was trying to fight Ugas before he actually won his world title.....

          Look at Porter who didn't even want to respond to a unification bout question vs Crawford when he had a title....The week after he lost to Spence and found out that he was denied a rematch, his daddy started barking at Crawford on social media. Then denied 2 official offers from Bob Arum. He was the mandatory for 18 months yet never contacted the commission to express interest in a title bout. But was on his podcast talking about everything he would do to stop Crawford. Ended up being dropped to #2 and replaced by Vergil Ortiz Jr. The Crawford camp contacted the WBO after the Manny fight fell through. They mandated the fight...... The fight was eventually made with Porter on PBC and Crawford WAS STILL WITH TOP RANK. So cross promotion is not hard to accomplish if you want the fight to happen. Bob Arum didn't want it to go to purse bid so he went ahead and gave Porter the money he wanted.

          Come up with another excuse.....

          P.S........I don't blame Spence.....he isn't the one that makes the fights....he just points out to who he is willing to fight and his promoter makes it happen. If he actually wanted the Crawford fight....he would have been as aggressive at letting it known he want it as he did for the Mikey Garcia fight.......

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          • Southpawology
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            #105
            The ship already sailed for this fight nobody cares now like they used to. Boxing never strikes when the iron is hot.

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