Comments Thread For: Holyfield: I Can See Usyk Giving Tyson Fury Problems

[Inspired]

It'd be a crying shame if we never got to see this. For me they're head & shoulders above the rest and both exceptionally skilled and I have a difficult time envisioning their styles and such. As a greedy fan I need this fight & will be devastated if we never get it.

I already get a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach knowing we might not get to see this one or at least when it matters, neither guys exactly young.

personally i cant see fury even beating AJ and Joe Joyce...and esp not usyk.
it's easy to mock this pov right now given aj's losses. However, styles make fights n all that. Fury could ride wilder's shots, see them coming. wilder had flaws in his build eg the weak legs and lack of conditioning.
aj is scared of smaller guys who get on the inside and beat him to the punch on speed...he can't keep up with them. ruiz and usyk have fast hands.
i wonder how fury would fare against that style, fast hands. fury would obv seek to keep his distance and 'manhandle/tie them up' on the inside but easier said than done.

against joshua and joyce, they cant be manhandled nor can he get on the inside against them, they can do it to him however. his only option would be to keep his distance. however this isnt the 2015 version of fury, he is bigger and slower now, tougher/stronger but slower..and he would def get caught. joyce cant even be hurt like aj, he would dent fury's eye socket same way he did dubois.

if fury trades with aj, aj stops him like he did wlad.

[Ry92]

Aj stays hurt against every opp every other fight. I dont see usyk doing much against fury but meeting a footlonger jab to the face then if get to close will get tied up having to carry an extra 60-70lbs for the whole fight tiring and then losing. Because aj does have power though scared to engage i give him the best chance out of hw. Since usyk is at war instead of holding up a whole sport for god knows how long make usyk the diamond champ, let aj fight hrgovic for the belt if he loses its a way better loss than dubois had and shouldnt deter career since they already hyping dubois back up and he quit vs joyce and didnt even lay a hand on joyce in the process

[Ravensfan]

Wlad was in his 30s when Fury beat him and in the prime of his life. Call it boring all you want, but to real boxing fans, it was an exhibition of elite skill. Nash considers it to be one of the best fights of all time and he watches it monthly. Nash out.

I stand corrected on the age of Wlad only because he was in fact 39 years and 280 some days old and only fought once more so he was in fact far from his prime, and he was 41 when he fought Joshua. I can find no one that labeled the Wlad-Fury fight a great fight but found all kinds stating that it was in fact a very boring fight. But after rereading your post I realize that you are just full of crap anyways and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Ravensfan]

Let's talk Holyfield.

Won the titles off Buster Douglas who was halfway to eating himself into a diabetic coma

Out pointed 50 year old George Foreman

Out pointed 50 year old Larry Holmes

Lost x2 to Bowe (won one but lost the trilogy)

Lost to blown up light heavyweight glass jaw moorer

Beat shot Tyson x2 who'd already been ktfo by bum Douglas and was "never the same" after prison

Robbery draw and loss vs lewis

Lost to John Ruiz


BTW I love holyfield and definatley rate him an ATG, but your argument is a shallow one and doesn't hold any weight.

You may or may not have had a valid point if we were in fact talking about Holyfield but we were not so you don't.