Haters always discredit all Fury`s wins

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #1

    Haters always discredit all Fury`s wins

    When Fury beat Klitschko, they said: oh, Wlad was not any good anyway and he was old and past his prime.

    When he beat Wilder they said Wilder was always an useless bum and that every top 10 guy would KO Wilder.

    Btw, Wlad barely lost a round in 10 years before fighting Fury and Wilder was seen as the most dangerous puncher ever in boxing community.

    So there is really no difference if Fury fights Helenius, Joshua, Ruiz, Ortiz, Whyte. All these guys already have losses and he will not get any credit for these wins.


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    That's what haters do. It's not just Fury this happens to.

    What haters think is not important. Beating the best possible opponents will always enhance your legacy.
    Last edited by Apollo7; 02-22-2022, 07:24 AM.

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    • Toffee
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      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      When Fury beat Klitschko, they said: oh, Wlad was not any good anyway and he was old and past his prime.

      When he beat Wilder they said Wilder was always an useless bum and that every top 10 guy would KO Wilder.

      Btw, Wlad barely lost a round in 10 years before fighting Fury and Wilder was seen as the most dangerous puncher ever in boxing community.

      So there is really no difference if Fury fights Helenius, Joshua, Ruiz, Ortiz, Whyte. All these guys already have losses and he will not get any credit for these wins.

      To be fair, we knew that about Wilder before he fought Fury.

      Wlad was past prime. Obviously. But I don't denigrate that win - it was a huge win. Though I don't buy the rewritten history that it was an easy win. It was a close fight that could have swung on a few punches. And of course we never got to see if a Wlad motivated by defeat could have got revenge.

      Besides that there's nothing left to criticise. He doesn't really have any other wins that you would need to denigrate. They're not at the top level.

      If he beats Whyte, and he should, then it will comfortably be his third best win. And he'll be fighting a legitimate guy in Whyte - you couldn't argue it wasn't the Whyte of old. Whyte has a chance to be the best version Fury could face.

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      • Nash out
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        #4
        This is easily done with anyone. Haters gonna hate. I, or somebody else could easily go over Sugar Ray Robinson's resume and rip apart. Nash out.

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          #5
          All elite boxers like Fury have haters, no different to when Floyd was active.

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          • Marchegiano
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            It's all in fan conduct isn't it?

            Wilder would be knocked out by every top ten fighter is a criticism that's always been part of Wilder's career. Even when Wilder was beating top ten fighters, even when Wilder fought Stiverne for the title. Always been claimed Wilder would lose to any top ten, and when he fights one and wins all they do is discredit the position and no-true-scotsman the argument; any real top ten.

            So, as a fan, I am not at all surprised the only man to ever actually embarrass Deontay gets no credit for it. Deontay is just one of those guys who gets no respect like as if his name were Dangerfield.

            Wlad was being asked about retirement as far back as 2014 because his fans were scared he'd lose soon. Folks put up a good front these days but here's two real truths.

            (1) Wlad fans, the real ones, by and large have ****ed off this forum.
            (2) These counterfeit Wlad fans only use him and the arguments of the former Wlad fan contingent as a vehicle for hating on some other fighter.

            Wlad was old, and that alone had his real fans calling for his retirement. When it happened his fans ****ed off, ain't no one talking to Burke or Tunney today, but the folks who hate Fury or Joshua did not. So they took up the argument, Wlad old doe, and use it when convenient



            Point is, both these sentiments for these fighters existed prior to Fury beating them. Pre-built excuses are the boxing fan/hater's favorite flavor of excuses. Because there ain't no truth to it, ain't no real interest in it, and the complete and total purpose is to talk **** in a logical format.



            How many times you think I have read Rocky only beat up old men? I know not every single one of them looked up the ages of Rocky's resume and are saying that even though they know better. They say it because they read it elsewhere and took it for truth.

            How many times you reckon I've heard Marciano's too small for all time head to head consideration? Do you reckon everyone who made that criticism even took the time to understand the crouch?

            So, let's pretend we did get a time machine and got to watch Rocky vs Tyson. Let's say Tyson wins. What reasons do you think haters would use to explain it? Rocky was too small and his resume is only old men? Probably huh?

            What is probably unlikely is Tyson Fury get any credit at all for being 7 foot and being able to fight small so well he out smalled the man who was out smalling 6-foot HWs. Archie Moor couldn't figure out how to handle Rocky's compact then explosion bull and Moore could move, Moore was fast, Moore had defense, and, Moore's a lot smaller than Fury.



            If Tyson Fury beat up Jack Dempsey I would be very impressed. I'd be about alone. It'd be me and the Fury hardcore all saying y'all dumb and Dempsey's size was a disadvantage....to ****in crickets while everyone else just repeats but small doe.


            If Tyson beat up Primo I'd be impressed but again outside of hardcore faithful all we'd hear is Primo slow doe.

            No matter who you match him with, there's an excuse, it was already written before they fought and haters will run with it.











            It's sad. Half the reason I talks **** is because that's the fun bit of boxing. You are meant to and if you're not into you are only a partial fan. It was literally made for **** talking and vicarious living. You are also supposed to praise the winning side. You know, man ****. Shake hands, say good fight, admit defeat, set up the next round of **** talk with a terminator-like line about being back, wash and repeat.

            Y'all broke the cycle by being womurnz. It's all **** talk all the time.....like a hen house.
            Last edited by Marchegiano; 02-22-2022, 09:22 AM. Reason: overused converse....ain't no converse there

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            • QueensburyRules
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              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              When Fury beat Klitschko, they said: oh, Wlad was not any good anyway and he was old and past his prime.

              When he beat Wilder they said Wilder was always an useless bum and that every top 10 guy would KO Wilder.

              Btw, Wlad barely lost a round in 10 years before fighting Fury and Wilder was seen as the most dangerous puncher ever in boxing community.

              So there is really no difference if Fury fights Helenius, Joshua, Ruiz, Ortiz, Whyte. All these guys already have losses and he will not get any credit for these wins.

              - - U feeling extra Jelly today.

              Blubberized Fury needed steroids to beat Wlad, ducked the rematch, and never defended his titles to play the mentally ill card while snorting up half of Columbia. U boy a certified SissyBoy needing Jellies like U to keep him propped up...

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