Fights where you KNOW before the bout who the winner will be?

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    Fights where you KNOW before the bout who the winner will be?

    I remember someone once commenting that they could see in Ken Norton's eyes that he knew he'd lose to George Foreman... sometimes fighters just KNOW.

    How many times have you watched a fight and, just from the ringwalk, you KNOW? Psychologically I mean, not obvious mismatches.

    It's not that often, really. Some examples:


    * Roy Jones Jr. vs. Tarver II - The fight that got me to join this forum looking for a stream, actually. Wow, that was a long time ago. Tarver had given Roy Hell in the first fight, and, while I didn't expect a second round TKO, you could see it in the eyes of both men. They KNEW.

    * Calzaghe vs. Lacy - At the time Lacy was talked up in NSB as the son of Mike Tyson genetically cloned with King Kong... yet strangely, you'll rarely find someone who admits it today. So I wanted the Slapsie win for all the pwn and laughs it would produce. And during the ring walks, I went "Wow... Calzaghe IS going to win. I AM going to be able to rip the piss out of people tomorrow." It was in their eyes.

    * Lewis vs. Rahman II. More when they're getting the ref's instructions than the walk, but I shit my pants looking at Lennox's eyes in that one, so I can't blame Rahman for doing the same.

    * I can't really say Bruno vs. Tyson II, as when one of the fighters walks to the ring repeatedly making the sign of the cross it's a bit TOO much of a giveaway.



    Why all this rambling? Well, I wasn't sure who'd win Khan-Brook. I certainly thought it'd be COMPETITIVE. I actually thought, from the weigh ins, press conferences, etc., that Khan was where he needed to be, as Kell was too wired and emotional.

    But then, while I can't claim I KNEW on the ring walks - it wasn't quite THAT obvious, it rarely is - I switched to Kell. He was the relaxed one, Amir was tense.

    What say you guys? Not about tonight's amusing bout, but on the subject overall? You ever seen a ringwalk and just KNEW?
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    Originally posted by !! Anorak
    I remember someone once commenting that they could see in Ken Norton's eyes that he knew he'd lose to George Foreman... sometimes fighters just KNOW.

    How many times have you watched a fight and, just from the ringwalk, you KNOW? Psychologically I mean, not obvious mismatches.

    It's not that often, really. Some examples:


    * Roy Jones Jr. vs. Tarver II - The fight that got me to join this forum looking for a stream, actually. Wow, that was a long time ago. Tarver had given Roy Hell in the first fight, and, while I didn't expect a second round TKO, you could see it in the eyes of both men. They KNEW.

    * Calzaghe vs. Lacy - At the time Lacy was talked up in NSB as the son of Mike Tyson genetically cloned with King Kong... yet strangely, you'll rarely find someone who admits it today. So I wanted the Slapsie win for all the pwn and laughs it would produce. And during the ring walks, I went "Wow... Calzaghe IS going to win. I AM going to be able to rip the piss out of people tomorrow." It was in their eyes.

    * Lewis vs. Rahman II. More when they're getting the ref's instructions than the walk, but I shit my pants looking at Lennox's eyes in that one, so I can't blame Rahman for doing the same.

    * I can't really say Bruno vs. Tyson II, as when one of the fighters walks to the ring repeatedly making the sign of the cross it's a bit TOO much of a giveaway.



    Why all this rambling? Well, I wasn't sure who'd win Khan-Brook. I certainly thought it'd be COMPETITIVE. I actually thought, from the weigh ins, press conferences, etc., that Khan was where he needed to be, as Kell was too wired and emotional.

    But then, while I can't claim I KNEW on the ring walks - it wasn't quite THAT obvious, it rarely is - I switched to Kell. He was the relaxed one, Amir was tense.

    What say you guys? Not about tonight's amusing bout, but on the subject overall? You ever seen a ringwalk and just KNEW?
    too bad i joined the forum after that. i was here for the broner hype train and now the tank hype train. those were/are fun. lacy always looked terrible to me but i went back and watched his fights after the calzaghe fight and saw a bum

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      khan looked nervous as hell on the ring walk, and he was right to be lol.

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        Originally posted by daggum

        too bad i joined the forum after that. i was here for the broner hype train and now the tank hype train. those were/are fun. lacy always looked terrible to me but i went back and watched his fights after the calzaghe fight and saw a bum
        Nice to see you still around, Daggum.

        The Lacy hype was beyond anything I've ever seen on here before. You ask around now and it's always "Oh, I KNEW he was overrated, it was everyone else...."

        I actually caught a Lacy bout with my mother, and she commented on how often he missed with his punches. Then I logged into NSB and the bout - the one where the aged Sandman turned up for a payday and clearly sat out the count - was confirmation that Lacy was "P4P Top 10".

        How an elderly lady who knows nothing about the sport was able to give a more accurate assessment that supposed knowledgeable boxing fans - by virtue of using her EYES - is astounding.

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          Most fights these days honestly. It’s rare to get two evenly matched guys in the ring. I picked Brook by ko and felt very comfortable about it. Khan was never the same level of fighter as Brook and I think everyone outside of England could see that. This fight could have happened at any point and the result would have been the same.

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            Any carnelo fight since he got paid off judges

            Spencer- Garcia was predictable
            stank-panty Cruz (after the gomez fight i think its safe to say stank had paid off judges too)
            Any windmill fight that wasn't against fury

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              Originally posted by !! Anorak

              Why all this rambling? Well, I wasn't sure who'd win Khan-Brook. I certainly thought it'd be COMPETITIVE. I actually thought, from the weigh ins, press conferences, etc., that Khan was where he needed to be, as Kell was too wired and emotional.

              But then, while I can't claim I KNEW on the ring walks - it wasn't quite THAT obvious, it rarely is - I switched to Kell. He was the relaxed one, Amir was tense.

              What say you guys? Not about tonight's amusing bout, but on the subject overall? You ever seen a ringwalk and just KNEW?
              Everyone is an expert nostradamus afterwards, lol.

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                Any mayweather or Canelo fights... the results are pre-determined. =P

                But for sure, you can also see it in the fighters too.

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                  Originally posted by Motofan
                  Most fights these days honestly. It’s rare to get two evenly matched guys in the ring. I picked Brook by ko and felt very comfortable about it. Khan was never the same level of fighter as Brook and I think everyone outside of England could see that. This fight could have happened at any point and the result would have been the same.
                  Did you read the thread and understand the question I was asking?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan
                    Any carnelo fight since he got paid off judges

                    Spencer- Garcia was predictable
                    stank-panty Cruz (after the gomez fight i think its safe to say stank had paid off judges too)
                    Any windmill fight that wasn't against fury
                    Did you read the thread and understand the question I was asking?

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