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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #11
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    You really think Canelo is clean?

    It’s funny man, cause people only seem to accuse fighters they don’t support as drug cheats whilst defending the guys they like.

    I’m a massive Roy fan, but do I think Roy was clean? Probably not. I’m a big Fury fan, do I buy Fury’s contamination excuse? Not really.

    If you test positive, you’re guilty in my book. It’s your body so you’re responsible for what you ingest.
    Canelo does more VADA than just about anybody and his tests keep coming up clean.

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      #12
      Brook is all roided out so no, it aint clean.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Canelo does more VADA than just about anybody and his tests keep coming up clean.
        I'm not anti-Canelo, I think dude is a beast (gotta put a declaimer in before getting accused lol), but on this, didn't the WBC raise the limit for Clenbutorol due to Mexicans testing positive? So Canelos Clenbutorol levels could still be high.

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          #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          Canelo does more VADA than just about anybody and his tests keep coming up clean.
          A fighter using PED’s could literally do a VADA test every week and still not get caught. It’s so easy to pass a drug test. A lot of these substances are in and out of your system within in hours and VADA test you what? Twice a month at most.

          Take the Whyte situation for example, he tested positive for Metandienone, commonly known as Dianabol. He then passed another test later that same day. Now lesser minds would believe the contamination excuse but the reality is Dianabol has an shelf life of 4-6 hours so it had simply passed through his system by the time of the second test.

          The fact that Canelo or any athlete passes VADA tests means nothing, do you realise how many tests Armstrong passed, how many Russian Olympians continually passed despite state sponsored doping.

          I would literally bet my entire life savings that Canelo is still doping. I believe essentially every other top fighter/athlete is too. They’d be ****** not to because it’s so easy to get away with. Doping is simply a reality of modern day sport’s science.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Sure.

            Yves Ngabu. Adverse VADA finding in 2019.

            BJS. Popped in 2018 for oxilofrine.

            Liam Cameron. Popped in 2018 for benzoylecgonine.

            Kid Galahad. Popped in 2014 for stanozolol.
            Honestly I was expecting a little more there. I would assume most gyms have similar issues over an 8 year period. Would just need 4 incidents in that timeframe to match it

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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              A fighter using PED’s could literally do a VADA test every week and still not get caught. It’s so easy to pass a drug test. A lot of these substances are in and out of your system within in hours and VADA test you what? Twice a month at most.

              Take the Whyte situation for example, he tested positive for Metandienone, commonly known as Dianabol. He then passed another test later that same day. Now lesser minds would believe the contamination excuse but the reality is Dianabol has an shelf life of 4-6 hours so it had simply passed through his system by the time of the second test.

              The fact that Canelo or any athlete passes VADA tests means nothing, do you realise how many tests Armstrong passed, how many Russian Olympians continually passed despite state sponsored doping.

              I would literally bet my entire life savings that Canelo is still doping. I believe essentially every other top fighter/athlete is too. They’d be ****** not to because it’s so easy to get away with. Doping is simply a reality of modern day sport’s science.
              Canelo is doing the best testing there is at the moment. You can't really ask for more than that.

              A vast majority of boxers don't even use VADA.


              Originally posted by Boxing-1013

              Honestly I was expecting a little more there. I would assume most gyms have similar issues over an 8 year period. Would just need 4 incidents in that timeframe to match it
              Naw, that gym has a bad reputation.

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                #17
                [QUOTE=ShoulderRoll;n31305580]

                Canelo is doing the best testing there is at the moment. You can't really ask for more than that.

                A vast majority of boxers don't even use VADA.

                [QUOTE]

                He also failed a drugs test, the vast majority of boxers haven’t.

                By justifying Canelo’s chequered past but questioning Ingle fighters chequered past just highlights your bias.

                It goes back to my original point, most fans only accuse the fighters they don’t support.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  He also failed a drugs test, the vast majority of boxers haven’t.

                  By justifying Canelo’s chequered past but questioning Ingle fighters chequered past just highlights your bias.

                  It goes back to my original point, most fans only accuse the fighters they don’t support.
                  Canelo has tested repeatedly with VADA since the trace amounts of clen were found in his system.

                  If Ingle gym fighters became frequent VADA testers as well then I would be more inclined to view the gym in a less negative light.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    Canelo has tested repeatedly with VADA since the trace amounts of clen were found in his system.

                    If Ingle gym fighters became frequent VADA testers as well then I would be more inclined to view the gym in a less negative light.
                    It literally proves nothing though. Do you think Whyte is now clean? He passed VADA tests the same day he got caught by UKAD.

                    You’re just showing your bias dude, it’d be like me insisting Roy was clean when there’s evidence to suggest otherwise.

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                      #20
                      I'm a brook fan and have always been critical of Khan but Kell looked suspect tonight. He was huge in there.

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