Remember, Canelo looks ordinary on elite level

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  • elfag
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    #21
    Originally posted by soul_survivor

    Certainly lost to GGG, especially the first fight he was completely out classed. Very close against Lara who wasn't even elite tbh, same goes for Trout. Lets not forget Canelo was getting picked apart by BJS early as well.

    But I heard the Bivol match up would be at 172? Either way Bivol is not that good and completely untested.

    BJS won a few rounds with the jab and movement. lol at picked a part, its not like BJS was up on points when he got knocked out, canelo already adjusted and was back to winning rounds.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Oracle01

      I think he is the same fighter but just fighting weaker opponents. He looked pretty ordinary for most of the Plant fight, missing so much and just chasing him around throwing hay makers. That is why they cherry pick to build the myth Canelo is much better. He had 43 pro fights when he fought Floyd, no fighter in history has suddenly improved greatly at that point. He was a seasoned pro already, yet the fan boys kept acting like he was a rookie or something lol.

      plant talked endless **** pre fight but when he got in the right he came to survive not to win, he ran the whole time and the only reason canelo got the stoppage is relentlessly stalking him. even someone like say spence vs mikey garcia went the distance because mikey ran all night and was in there to not get hurt not to win, it can be hard to get the stoppage.

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      • eco1
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        #23
        172 172 172??? Why?

        I mean, he said he was going to fight Mukapanda or whatever his name is but Bivol has to be drained and will probably have to do it in a few weeks since Clenelo needs to do the Cycle.
        Last edited by eco1; 02-19-2022, 10:33 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here. If we're saying Canelo is only ordinary on elite level, yet he went life and death with GGG in very close fights, what does that say for GGG on an elite level? GGG's best wins would be Jacobs, Lemieux, Geale, Murray, D-Chenko. Not exactly elite level themselves. Seems to be a wash.
          GGG is a beast have you not got eyes, why run everybody down based on names you try to blow off, they are solid comp and he beat them soundly, the greats throughout history have resumes full of chumps whats new in boxing, Canelo is a great in the making and its probably only weight that will beat him, or great slick boxing like Floyd and Lara came close, its a bad style for Canelo, Bivol is a good style for Canelo.

          I don't think Bivol is dynamic enough to beat Canelo, Bivol looks heavy-handed pedestrian to me, I feel Canelos explosive punches will be too fast for Bivol, no doubt he can punch though and Russians are as tough as Mexicans making it a great fight, I hope it happens.

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          • Boxing fan1981
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            #25
            GGG robbed Jacobs

            GGG robbed Deryvencheno

            Lost to Canelo

            GGG is a FRAUD

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            • BodyBagz
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              #26
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

              Bivol murders everybody on Canelo`s resume, including GGG.
              I don't think you will reply to this but who has Bivol actually beaten ?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Xi Jinping
                Canelo is one of the weakest champions ever. He'd never be considered an elite fighter. Canelo will have a hard time beating a Chinese cab driver.
                GGG had his whole career to be where Nelo is at.......what happened ?

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                • hhh1200
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  very controversial win against Lara
                  two very controversial fights with GGG
                  a loss to Mayweather

                  I won`t be surprised at all if/when Bivol wins, even with a KO. Bivol is a legit champ at 175, he is much stronger than anybody Canelo has ever fought so far and well skilled also.

                  Callum, Plant and Saunders are not on that level.
                  Bivol will be so drained. They will need crazy glue to hold his trunks up.

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                  • TreyShaw
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                    #29
                    Yea sooo "ordinary"

                    Ray Leonard, Duran, Jones, Floyd, all very ordinary too when facing Elite prime fighters. Smh

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor

                      Certainly lost to GGG, especially the first fight he was completely out classed. Very close against Lara who wasn't even elite tbh, same goes for Trout. Lets not forget Canelo was getting picked apart by BJS early as well.

                      But I heard the Bivol match up would be at 172? Either way Bivol is not that good and completely untested.

                      At one point when Lara was #1 contender for WBA/WBC 154, he was landing 49-50% of his power punches. Guess the other guy who was in that range?

                      That answers the question along with a 74'' reach, why FMW defended the belts vs Maidana.

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