Franchise + Super

[Boxing 112]

135 Franchise has been passed on so another fighter can win it. So it's the major belt as also said by WBC President.

If people do not recognise Kambisos as undisputed. And you're all mad at the franchise. I'm sure most of you here diss the wba regular and recognise WBA Super. Shouldn't everyone then acknowledge WBA regular which is the real belt, and not acknowledge the Super which was the made up belt and fighters elevated to. Just as franchise is. Only diff is Franchise is not in every division which it will be eventually. WBA super did not exist at every division. Wlad was elevated to the so called super after he beat Haye for the WBA

Everyone mad at the franchise but you all acknowledge the Super which was a new thing just over a decade ago.

Super and Franchise should both be scrapped. Or acknowledge them both as the major title.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I don’t give a f*** about the belts anymore tbh. Kambosos is THE Champion at 135. Undisputed or not, he’s the man to beat at 135.

[IronDanHamza]

Franchise Title and Super Title are essentially the same thing.

There's basically no difference between the two.

[Boxing 112]

Franchise Title and Super Title are essentially the same thing.

There's basically no difference between the two.

That is my point. Franchise is basically becoming super. And at 135 it is the same as super since the belt just gets passed on every fight now if fighter loses. So my point being. But then are those 2 not the "new belts" and people should actually be dissing those 2 belts and not the other way around

[Marchegiano]

IBF still has Haney as WBC champion, still a dispute, y'all keep trying to sidestep this, quit being lazy ****s and ask the IBF, WBA, and WBO why they don't recognize George and you'll have your real answer.

Everyone is just making up nonsense. The bodies have had more than long enough to update their ratings and recognize George universally, they are not, there is a reason, go figure it out and tell us about it.


Super just like Franchise, except this situation never existed in Super.

Franchise has been passed twice so it's legit as the WBC pres says it is

Meanwhile no one, on either side of this debate, wants to recognize the very special and original situation we find ourselves in. All these bull**** semantics games like as if y'all're lawyers or some **** does not address why the IBF, WBA, and WBO currently only recognize Haney as WBC champion at 135.

Take yer reasons, shove em up yer ass, they ain't worth the **** they made of. Go ****ing contact and find out. I would have myself by now but the honest truth is I give such little ****s I will forget before I even leave the forum this morning. If I gave a **** enough to make a thread I'd come with official reasoning not dumb **** made up bull to sound logical but has no bearing on **** all and changes **** all.




Show me a Super who is not recognized as the WBA champion by the IBF.

Here you go your franchise, not recognized by the IBF, but it's the same as Super doe IBF Ratings (ibf-usba-boxing.com)

[The Big Dunn]

I am against any “title” that distorts what I know to be true.

Loma’s “franchise “ title is as fake to me as Tank’s WBA LW “regular “ title is. These are “titles ” both guys powerful promoters were able to negotiate with the sanctioning bodies.

Kambosis is the WBA, IBF and WBO ( which I don’t even really consider as a sanctioning body) champion at 135. Haney, regardless of the fact he was given the belt and didn’t get the chance to win in the ring, is the WBC champion at 135.

Kambosis is the champ, Haney is the #1 contender.

[IronDanHamza]

IBF still has Haney as WBC champion, still a dispute, y'all keep trying to sidestep this, quit being lazy ****s and ask the IBF, WBA, and WBO why they don't recognize George and you'll have your real answer.

Everyone is just making up nonsense. The bodies have had more than long enough to update their ratings and recognize George universally, they are not, there is a reason, go figure it out and tell us about it.


Super just like Franchise, except this situation never existed in Super.

Franchise has been passed twice so it's legit as the WBC pres says it is

Meanwhile no one, on either side of this debate, wants to recognize the very special and original situation we find ourselves in. All these bull**** semantics games like as if y'all're lawyers or some **** does not address why the IBF, WBA, and WBO currently only recognize Haney as WBC champion at 135.

Take yer reasons, shove em up yer ass, they ain't worth the **** they made of. Go ****ing contact and find out. I would have myself by now but the honest truth is I give such little ****s I will forget before I even leave the forum this morning. If I gave a **** enough to make a thread I'd come with official reasoning not dumb **** made up bull to sound logical but has no bearing on **** all and changes **** all.




Show me a Super who is not recognized as the WBA champion by the IBF.

Here you go your franchise, not recognized by the IBF, but it's the same as Super doe IBF Ratings (ibf-usba-boxing.com)

Who cares if it's not recognized by the others? Are the others the law?

The IBF never used to be recognized at all. WBO either.

What is the actual difference between the WBA Super and the WBC Franchise?

If the WBC themselves are saying that that is there main title then what exactly is the argument here?

[IronDanHamza]

I am against any “title” that distorts what I know to be true.

Loma’s “franchise “ title is as fake to me as Tank’s WBA LW “regular “ title is. These are “titles ” both guys powerful promoters were able to negotiate with the sanctioning bodies.

Kambosis is the WBA, IBF and WBO ( which I don’t even really consider as a sanctioning body) champion at 135. Haney, regardless of the fact he was given the belt and didn’t get the chance to win in the ring, is the WBC champion at 135.

Kambosis is the champ, Haney is the #1 contender.

Haney's WBC belt is more like the equivalent to Tank's belt at 140, not Kambosos.

[James Hunt]

Franchise Title and Super Title are essentially the same thing.

There's basically no difference between the two.

Only for people too lazy to read the rules or just plain ******.

Franchise designation (not a title!!; Kambo):
- NOT RECOGNIZED by other 3 major Orgs. and therefore CAN'T be UNIFIED
- CAN become mando to WBC champ

WBC title (Haney)
- IS RECOGNIZED by other 3 major Orgs. and therefore CAN be UNIFIED
- CAN'T become mando to WBC Franchise champ

WBA Super:
- IS RECOGNIZED by other 3 major Orgs. and therefore CAN be UNIFIED
- CAN'T become mando to WBA Regular

WBA Regular:
- NOT RECOGNIZED by other 3 major Orgs. and therefore CAN'T be UNIFIED unless there is NO Super champ
- CAN become mando to WBA Super

The ruth is exactly the opposite.
WBCFranchise = Regular
WBC Champ = Super
If u don't believe it, check their rankings.
If it sounds better doesn't mean it really is.

[The Big Dunn]

Haney's WBC belt is more like the equivalent to Tank's belt at 140, not Kambosos.

Haney is a legit champ imo because he was given a vacated belt. Tank isn’t really a champion.