Can anyone explain how Canelo is a better body puncher than Bivol?

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  • LeOoze
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013
    Man you need some help. Why the fu.ck would Bivol not go to the body that often because of the stuff you mentioned? Get help sincerely.
    LMAO thats some funny ****

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    • Boxing Logic
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      #12
      Originally posted by lopetego

      lmao, this gotta win the prize for ******ed theory of the month in NSB.

      I guess the fight is pointless since Bivol is already on Canelo's payroll, therefore a fight between them will look like Wilder vs Malik Scott lol

      You might have a point with Inoue, but Beterbiev is no better body puncher than ginger.

      Besides size and power, Canelo is better than Beterbiev at literally everything.
      Just look at your sig bro. Kovalev right hand is open, not a fist, and he turns it sliding off Mohammedi's cheek down and to Kovalev's left, then his left jab at the end he twists his wrist inside out to pull that punch off the target too! Just watch it over a few times. Even in real time, you should be able to see how they fake it. They make enough contact with the padding to make a little splash as the guy getting "hit" snaps his head and makes a hurt face, but they slide the glove off the target before the fist inside the glove compresses into the target. Nothing hard is hitting anyone, it's all padding. If you watch the Canelo vs Kovalev KO it's the same thing. It's pre-choreographed. Kovalev stands upright as Canelo punches down, so that the "punch" slides down Kovalev's tilted cheek and under his neck. And no one even denies that Wilder vs Scott was fake, but that's just because they messed up the choreography so it was even more obvious. They are all fake like that, just usually they disguise it better. I am trying to wake you guys up. I know I will be ridiculed and made fun of, but I am going out on a limb anyway to try to help you guys.

      Pick any KO you've seen on TV. Any one. Then go watch it over, closely. Slow it down if you have to. You should be able to see how it was faked. Same with you guys QueensburyRules QballLobo. Once you realize it's fake, you will then wonder, "but what about the blood and the cuts," just remember that can be faked too. Much more complex fakery happens all the time in Vegas every time there is a magic show in a casino. You'd be shocked what can be accomplished with technology. Some methods, we do not even know about because the techniques are not advertised to the public, just like some magic tricks that have been going on for decades, that people obviously know aren't real, people in the public still don't know how they're actually done because they are still considered trade secrets among magicians. I can tell you this, these guys are not suffering real cuts from fake punches or fake headbutts.
      Last edited by Boxing Logic; 02-14-2022, 09:55 PM.

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      • TreyShaw
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic

        Just look at your sig bro. Kovalev right hand is open, not a fist, and he turns it sliding off Mohammedi's cheek down and to Kovalev's left, then his left jab at the end he twists his wrist inside out to pull that punch off the target too! Just watch it over a few times. Even in real time, you should be able to see how they fake it. They make enough contact with the padding to make a little splash as the guy getting "hit" snaps his head and makes a hurt face, but they slide the glove off the target before the fist inside the glove compresses into the target. Nothing hard is hitting anyone, it's all padding. If you watch the Canelo vs Kovalev KO it's the same thing. It's pre-choreographed. Kovalev stands upright as Canelo punches down, so that the "punch" slides down Kovalev's tilted cheek and under his neck. And no one even denies that Wilder vs Scott was fake, but that's just because they messed up the choreography so it was even more obvious. They are all fake like that, just usually they disguise it better. I am trying to wake you guys up. I know I will be ridiculed and made fun of, but I am going out on a limb anyway to try to help you guys.

        Pick any KO you've seen on TV. Any one. Then go watch it over, closely. Slow it down if you have to. You should be able to see how it was faked. Same with you guys QueensburyRules QballLobo. Once you realize it's fake, you will then wonder, "but what about the blood and the cuts," just remember that can be faked too. Much more complex fakery happens all the time in Vegas every time there is a magic show in a casino. You'd be shocked what can be accomplished with technology. Some methods, we do not even know about because the techniques are not advertised to the public, just like some magic tricks that have been going on for decades, that people obviously know aren't real, people in the public still don't know how they're actually done because they are still considered trade secrets among magicians. I can tell you this, these guys are not suffering real cuts from fake punches or fake headbutts.
        Yes Kovalev let canelo knock him the **** out like a ragdoll literally!!!! Boxers can die with shots like that. If that ko was "fake"then every single ko in boxing history is fake too. SMH

        Seriously like the other poster said you need help big time, boxing is not for you go back to WWE.
        Last edited by TreyShaw; 02-15-2022, 12:03 AM.

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        • bballchump11
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          #14
          Bivol vs Pascal was fake.

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          • Boxing Logic
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            #15
            Originally posted by TreyShaw

            Yes Kovalev let canelo knock him the **** out like a ragdoll literally!!!! Boxers can die with shots like that. If that ko was "fake"then every single ko in boxing history is fake too. SMH

            Seriously like the other poster said you need help big time, boxing is not for you go back to WWE.
            You've never heard of "acting"? You seem to miss the point that I'm saying he was never knocked out at all, it was all acting. If you want to see bad acting, Floyd vs Victor Ortiz is very obvious. Floyd the most accurate puncher in the sport has a sitting duck target, but instead of punching Ortiz flush, he glances the side of his face. He misses/glances on purpose, and Ortiz acts and does the rest, along with the red who is also acting.

            As for boxing history, I can't speak to every KO in history because we only have video going back 80 years or something like that, when it comes to boxing. I haven't studied ones from that far back, but every one I've seen the last few decades is definitely fake, maybe longer than that, I'd have to study those too. But going back to the Ali era at least, it's all fake. And apparently people suspected a few of his fights were fake even back then, so all they really got wrong is thinking it was just those few su****ious KO's that were faked, and not all the rest of his fights too. They definitely were, in my opinion, I mean it's clear as day. They also faked fights back then with different standards for how hard a punch should be, and what the human body can take. In modern fake boxing they are playing up the body shot, and you see guys hurt from single body shots. Back then, in for example the Ali vs Frazier fights, Ali gets drilled with a million body shots to the liver and none of them do a thing. The people choreographing the fights back then were different than the people now, and some consistency gets lost from time to time for various reasons. My opinion, anyway.
            Last edited by Boxing Logic; 02-15-2022, 01:12 AM.

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            • Haka
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              #16
              Don't care about Bivol, he fights boring and scared.

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              • MulaKO
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                #17












                Beterbiev smiles

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                • TreyShaw
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic

                  You've never heard of "acting"? You seem to miss the point that I'm saying he was never knocked out at all, it was all acting. If you want to see bad acting, Floyd vs Victor Ortiz is very obvious. Floyd the most accurate puncher in the sport has a sitting duck target, but instead of punching Ortiz flush, he glances the side of his face. He misses/glances on purpose, and Ortiz acts and does the rest, along with the red who is also acting.

                  As for boxing history, I can't speak to every KO in history because we only have video going back 80 years or something like that, when it comes to boxing. I haven't studied ones from that far back, but every one I've seen the last few decades is definitely fake, maybe longer than that, I'd have to study those too. But going back to the Ali era at least, it's all fake. And apparently people suspected a few of his fights were fake even back then, so all they really got wrong is thinking it was just those few su****ious KO's that were faked, and not all the rest of his fights too. They definitely were, in my opinion, I mean it's clear as day. They also faked fights back then with different standards for how hard a punch should be, and what the human body can take. In modern fake boxing they are playing up the body shot, and you see guys hurt from single body shots. Back then, in for example the Ali vs Frazier fights, Ali gets drilled with a million body shots to the liver and none of them do a thing. The people choreographing the fights back then were different than the people now, and some consistency gets lost from time to time for various reasons. My opinion, anyway.
                  Man you are one dumb idiot if you think Kovalev was "acting" when his body went lifeless.

                  **** while we're at it I think Khan was also "acting" when he went out too. Such great actors those guys are..

                  Let me guess you probably think space is fake too earth is flat right? Are we real to you? What is real? Fucckin nut!

                  get help you are obviously a few bricks short of a stack.

                  And wtf are you doing on a boxing forum if you don't know the sport and thinks it's all some WWE act. Get the **** outta here weirdo.
                  Last edited by TreyShaw; 02-15-2022, 01:57 AM.

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic

                    IMO, this sport is completely fake at this level. So yes the fight really is pointless. I was sort of making that point in the original post. No, it's not about Canelo hating, although that accusation is a good tactic to discredit people who tell the truth about the sport. "Oh, you just don't like such and such boxer." So let me clear that up right away. GGG's fights are fake too. Loma's fights are fake. Floyd's fights are fake. Pacquiao's fights are fake. The money that can be made from knowing outcomes ahead of time is way, way, way more than if they aren't. The risk of death and injury is way, way, way, way, way less than if the fights are real. NFL is the same way. You didn't see Aaron Donald given a free waltz to the quarterback on the game deciding play? That's because every play is scripted. There are 120 plays or whatever per game, even the best players are only on the field maybe 40, so each player just has to memorize his role, like an actor memorizing lines, for 40 plays each week. With the sports that play every couple days, they just play off of each other more, and only script the key plays. It might sound crazy to you guys but honestly I am trying to tell you guys the truth so that you're not fooled like I was for so many years. Pretty much everything on TV is scripted.
                    - - OK, FAKE Boxing Logic...now go back to U playdough and silly putty creations...

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