So Deontay Wilder is going to take drugs

[Marchegiano]

Sounds like Deontay.


The biggest frustration I have with Wilder as a fan is his character changes.

I'll try to do this quickly without droning forever, but know, I could drone on for pages on this.



Wilder started, was he a leader in the black community?

Was he a southern black man with no connection to any larger black community?

Alright

Pre-Fury, was he still the southern man? Talking about stories from the southlands?

Or was he too busy talking about til this day and **** like that, african ancestors, black greatness, being a king of his people?

Alright

I don't have any issue with King Wilder, but fact is I signed up to be a fan of a black dude from Bama who carried himself like a black dude from Bama....not a king.

It makes it much more difficult to talk about him because I've little real connection to that.

I don't ever speak about it because it'd just be disrespectful in most cases but fact is I don't even understand the theory behind something like a community of race.

I don't think many actually think about it. No one ever calls white a community. I've heard latino before and laughed at it. If there's really a network of by black for black around the world, cool, more power to yas, but I ain't buying. I have **** all no connection to Ricky Martin. I just don't give a **** about that fool. Westside story means **** all to me. I don't care how many latinos were stopped at any border. Because there is no community. That's the ****ing truth. They are strangers to me. From strange places that act strangely. A black latino from Grenada has as much connection to me as he does our Travesty, **** all none, dude's a stranger to us both. Community is it? Representation is it?

So how can I speak to King Wilder positively? I don't even understand the stance. Tokenizing yourself to be a "leader" to be people nothing like you is such a foreign idea for me I can't hardly wrap my head around the attraction let alone figure a way to be nearly as vocal or supportive as I was for the southern black man character he started as. I am, for real, so into local community I don't vote. Unless a local tells me he's a felon but gives a **** and wishes he could. Then I'll vote for my neighbor's stead. I get community, just not one with a bunch of strangers who know **** all and care as much as their benefit.


And here at the end. I think it is ****ing rich he appeals to the original goals now.

Like as if those who got him to talk about King ever gave a **** about the father fighting for his daughter. Yo, I was there, this forum is my proof. Ain't no black community of give a **** about Deontay Wilder prior to 2015. FFS most black fans rode with Stiverne and called Wilder a duck. It wasn't no community of black that supported the father. That **** came after the champion was already crowned. In that time Wilder spoke little about his OG goals or Alabama and spoke at length about his ancestors, his community, and oppression. Truth is in 2013 I knew one other real Wilder fan, another white man.


Well, mother ****er. It's true, the father, the 20-something black man from Bama, he has **** all to prove. He overachieved. We just expected you to smash Stiverne and retire, but that's not what happened. What happened is black community bull**** preaching got in his ear and he started to talk about Rocky ain't ****, he's the most dangerous man, gonna beat Marciano's record, gonna go undisputed, one face - one name and he go by Deontay Wilder. Cool, get'her done. I was cool with all that. Going after the memory of the Rock and ****, cool, ya lost that. Get something done now. Gonna do this, gonna do that, ain't no ****ing truth to it. Truth is this mother ****er lost his way and might be too ****** to realize it.

Ancestors Community King None of that was part of the conversation when the goal was to take care of his daughter. Back then is was family, food, and reminding y'all where he came from. Pride. He claimed King, let us see a King now.

[mlac]

i'd love to see a rejuvenated shroomin' Wilder come back and destroy the big stay humble stiff idiot tbh. after somehow the psilocybin rewires his brain in a way where he somehow turns incredibly smart & articulate

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Wilder only has to be perfect for one second against any man not named Tyson Fury.

I'd love to see him lay Joshua out.

[Get em up]

Apparently alot of movie stars, musicians and sports stars been at it and its really good or helpful.

That was how I understood it too. For people with multiple concussions its apparently a life changing experience

[MulaKO]

I do it for recreation but now I’ll be tripping before every fughin pick’em

Maybe Blaster And Wilder are onto something

Meh , wtv just more reasons to do shrooms

Flying high again

[Pigeons]

I'm imagining him releasing a video saying he took his potion and took a trip. Listened to his ancestors. They talked about his life journey and resolved that his destiny was to be the fighter with the most trilogies of all time.

Wilder v Stiverne 3. Working name "How did these two ever fight for the title?"

Wilder v Ortiz 3. Working name "Yeah, they're both still fighting".

Stiverne upset Arreola in 2013 in an eliminator for Vitali's WBC belt. Arreola and Stiverne were #1 and 2 at HW with the WBC at the time. After Vitali retired and vacated his belt, the WBC ordered a rematch of Stiverne-Arreola for the vacant title. Stiverne stopped him and ended whatever prime Arreola had. Stiverne became a top-5 heavyweight after those pair of fights. The only guys above him in January 2015 when he fought Wilder were Wladimir Klitschko, Povetkin, and Fury. The only other guy that maybe should have been ranked above him at the time was Pulev, but that would have still put Stiverne #5.

Heavyweight was very weak in 2015. It had been weak outside of the Klitschko brothers since Lewis' retirement in 2003.