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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by SplitSecond

    There was no more money or better deal. Hearn/Matchroom/DAZN would love to have Morrell's belt. The more belts they control the better. There is zero point in throwing Ryder in with Bivol besides pleasing a hungry fighter by showing him you can get him championship fights. Again, there is no benefit to throwing Ryder in with proven Bivol north of his division (Did you see fat Ryder in his last fight testing 175?) rather than Morrell in his own weightclass. The only ones that benefit from this fight not happening are PBC/Morrell, who can now pad up another champ.

    BTW. Did Ryder start exploring Bivol before or AFTER Morrell's got his voluntary?
    This just sounds like anti-PBC garbage.

    There definitely was a better deal offered. John will fight anyone, he’ll go where the money is. I don’t blame him for that whatsoever.

    It was re-ordered after the voluntary, they were even granted an extension in August then it all when quiet and suddenly Bivol vs Ryder was ******ly being discussed.

    As I’ve told you, if Hearn/DAZN wanted this fight they could have forced it but they never. It’s a shame cause it’s an interesting matchup.

    I have no doubts Morrell and Ryder would have faced one another no problem. For a guy with only 6 Morrell has a very good resume, he’s the complete opposite of a guy with a padded record.

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    • tokon
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      #12
      I'm sure that Morrell fight was ordered by wba so why didn't Ryder take it?

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        #13
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        This just sounds like anti-PBC garbage.

        There definitely was a better deal offered. John will fight anyone, he’ll go where the money is. I don’t blame him for that whatsoever.

        It was re-ordered after the voluntary, they were even granted an extension in August then it all when quiet and suddenly Bivol vs Ryder was ******ly being discussed.

        As I’ve told you, if Hearn/DAZN wanted this fight they could have forced it but they never. It’s a shame cause it’s an interesting matchup.

        I have no doubts Morrell and Ryder would have faced one another no problem. For a guy with only 6 Morrell has a very good resume, he’s the complete opposite of a guy with a padded record.
        Yes, and instead of wasting more time on a guy that clearly doesn't want to fight him he's fighting Jacobs which in this case likely is for a better deal, for a bigger fight while being a WBA eliminator. The winner will still be lucky to get Morrell or any PBC champ, just like everyone else in the past, just like with the trouble Gvozdyk had with getting his shot vs Stevenson. And have we forgotten the PBC cheating in the purse bids? Lol

        "Anti-PBC garbage" is just truth. PBC is garbage. You just just ask yourself why Morrell asked for a Voluntary instead of fighting Ryder and how in the hell is Ryder just being sacrificed to Bivol instead of potentially winning a belt better for DAZN/Hearn in anyway.
        Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-12-2022, 02:29 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by SplitSecond

          Yes, and instead of wasting more time on a guy that clearly doesn't want to fight him he's fighting Jacobs which in this case likely is for a better deal, for a bigger fight while being a WBA eliminator. The winner will still be lucky to get Morrell or any PBC champ, just like everyone else in the past, just like with the trouble Gvozdyk had with getting his shot vs Stevenson. And have we forgotten the PBC cheating in the purse bids? Lol

          "Anti-PBC garbage" is just truth. PBC is garbage. You just just ask yourself why Morrell asked for a Voluntary instead of fighting Ryder and how in the hell is Ryder just being sacrificed to Bivol instead of potentially winning a belt better for DAZN/Hearn in anyway.
          You just sound like an anti PBC weirdo. You’re clearly displaying your bias.

          If Hearn/DAZN wanted to make Morrell vs Ryder they could have forced the fight via purse bids. They never and went in another direction. I’m a Ryder fan but it is what it is.

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            #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            You just sound like an anti PBC weirdo. You’re clearly displaying your bias.

            If Hearn/DAZN wanted to make Morrell vs Ryder they could have forced the fight via purse bids. They never and went in another direction. I’m a Ryder fan but it is what it is.
            You're dumbass is what you are. Peace.

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              #16
              Originally posted by tokon
              I'm sure that Morrell fight was ordered by wba so why didn't Ryder take it?
              It was, several times. This guy keeps missing that point. He’s one of those PBC hater types I think.

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                #17
                Originally posted by SplitSecond

                You're dumbass is what you are. Peace.
                That doesn’t even make grammatical sense.

                You’ve been proven wrong, get over it you f***ing imbecile.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  I get the usual suspects like Bronx and the other dipstick. but are there other "fools" outside the PBC cult that really believe they wanted any part of Morrell vs Ryder? So Ryder's side effed up or turned down the fight while Ryder was out there in a America training hard and trying to promote himself just so he could instead avoid Morrell, I'm guessing he set up the voluntary Morrell asked for too? Only to then come back and start talking and preparing for 175 fight vs Bivol of all people? Makes a ton of sense. They were stringing Ryder along and ***ing with him. Get it through your head that no one challenges a PBC phony for a belt unless the stars, moon and planets align. PBC is just a plethora of boxers with belts they never beat anyone worth sht to get. That's the one thing Haymon is good at.

                  Who ever wins this fight is no closer to getting this Morrell guy while he's part of the PBC. There is very little with the PBC that is above board and the WBA is the org they have in bed.
                  The fight was ordered and hearns took ryder thru another path. Has nothing to do with pbc. You're blaming the wrong outfit. When Morell jr. koed caceres, ryder was there, not long after WBA order the fight, hearns never responded and took his fighter back to England, with the excuse of fighting bivol, that is why DMJ fought the last dude.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond

                    There was no more money or better deal. Hearn/Matchroom/DAZN would love to have Morrell's belt. The more belts they control the better. There is zero point in throwing Ryder in with Bivol besides pleasing a hungry fighter by showing him you can get him championship fights. Again, there is no benefit to throwing Ryder in with proven Bivol north of his division (Did you see fat Ryder in his last fight testing 175?) rather than Morrell in his own weightclass. The only ones that benefit from this fight not happening are PBC/Morrell, who can now pad up another champ.

                    BTW. Did Ryder start exploring Bivol before or AFTER Morrell's got his voluntary on the date he was slated to fight Ryder?
                    Morell jr is not benefiting from that. Actually, he hasn't been protected at all, my take is that hearns is protecting his fighter against an unknown young and talented boxer like Morell jr. He doesn't want ryder to be a stepping stone just yet. Nothing to do with pbc.

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                      #20
                      both get destroyed and that is not because Morrell is unbeatable or anything

                      Ryder is average and Jacobs is past it

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