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  • Toffee
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    #131
    Fury is the current number one. He's a hell of a fighter and I'd make him favourite in any match up right now.

    But I don't accept that he's great yet. Beating Wilder doesn't do that given Wilder's own dubious resume and skills.

    Wilder and Joshua defended titles, fought mandatories. Joshua also unified and fought good competition. Fury has done none of that.

    As 'best of the era' he's as unproven as his main rivals.

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    • NorvernRob
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      #132
      Originally posted by jonnyc420

      Gotta write an essay yet we are the ones who are mad lol. You guys are owning yourselves and it is pure comedy. Fury the top dog and that is all there is too it. AJ getting whooped by fat dudes and CWs. Fury is ending long reigning champions runs. Get over it.
      See, you can’t argue even one of my points because you know it’s all 100% true.

      Here’s another fact for you - those CW’s and fat dudes, at least AJ actually fought them. Fury didn’t fancy the Usyk fight next and wanted a tune up against yet another hand picked bum.

      How can you justify Fury fighting ONE top ten fighter since 2015? His resume is wafer thin. Let’s see how he does against that ‘CW’ Usyk, that’s if he ever fights him.
      Last edited by NorvernRob; 02-10-2022, 05:41 PM.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #133
        Originally posted by Toffee
        Fury is the current number one. He's a hell of a fighter and I'd make him favourite in any match up right now.

        But I don't accept that he's great yet. Beating Wilder doesn't do that given Wilder's own dubious resume and skills.

        Wilder and Joshua defended titles, fought mandatories. Joshua also unified and fought good competition. Fury has done none of that.

        As 'best of the era' he's as unproven as his main rivals.
        You are making him favorite in any match up, simply because he is unbeaten. This factor has a affect on everyone's perception of Tyson Fury.

        I can remember when Wladimir Kiltschko was world champion, and sometimes I would think to myself 'It is difficult to imagine him not being champion' People get used to things routinely, and it is the same thing now with Tyson Fury 'People are used to him winning, and he is unbeaten'.

        What this does is create a universal aura which surrounds Tyson Fury, and this aura penetrates the sport and society itself. That is why the hype which surrounds Tyson Fury is off the charts, this is a natural thing the majority of sports fans and people within society do 'It will go 180 degree's if he is ever beaten'.

        I personally think this Kronk Fury is there for the taking, from a technical perspective 'I think he is beatable'. The very attributes that made him difficult to beat before he took a exodus, are not quite there anymore in his game.

        Can anyone in the heavyweight division exploit this? We have a generation of fighters, that all want to recreate the typical super heavyweight style of fighting. Jab, safe One Two's and then grab, nice and easy 'Every single Super-heavyweight, accept Tyson Fury himself wants to fight in this manner'.

        There is a serve lack of heavyweights at elite level, who can fight on the inside use rough house tactics and box. To find these kind of fighters you have to go down below elite level, where then fighters like Derek Chisora appear etc

        But anyway, yes I agree that Tyson Fury needs to do more as a champion. And that more is to his credit starting with Dillian Whyte 'All the pressure is on Tyson Fury for this fight, he is fighting a fighter who Anthony Joshua has already beaten'.

        I have always compared Tyson Fury since his comeback to the Muhammad Ali of the 1970's. They both adapted their game, in order to stay competitive.

        Note: After the second Ken Norton fight, Muhammad Ali realized his old float like a butterfly sting like a bee style, was no longer as potent 'After that fight he adapted his game, started coming into fights heavier, planted his base and increased his offensive out put'. Tyson Fury went through this same process after Wilder I.








        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-10-2022, 05:57 PM.

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        • jonnyc420
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          #134
          Originally posted by NorvernRob

          See, you can’t argue even one of my points because you know it’s all 100% true.

          Here’s another fact for you - those CW’s and fat dudes, at least AJ actually fought them. Fury didn’t fancy the Usyk fight next and wanted a tune up against yet another hand picked bum.
          No need to, you dislike Fury so you gonna whine about any and everything. Whats the point? Fact is Fury is #1 in the division no matter how much you complain. The hate for top dogs like Floyd, Canelo and Fury never ends. Always got some clown wanting to cry about something. Look no further than yourself Sob.

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          • KingGilgamesh
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            #135
            Originally posted by Toffee

            Well we've been told Usyk is a Cruiserweight. We've been told AJ is a robot. Whyte is a tremendous bum.

            Who exactly do you rate as being with a short at Fury in the heavyweight top 5?

            Oh yeah, Wilder who has fought one top fighter and been schooled three times.
            Yep. I put Hrgovic, Fury, Joyce and Wilder above Whyte. Hell, I would take a punt on Dubois as well. I rank Whyte below those guys and Joshua somewhere in between. Simply from what I know about boxing. Both have looked far too vulnerable among far too low ranked opponents.

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            • Stuart Chandler
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              #136
              Originally posted by NorvernRob

              See, you can’t argue even one of my points because you know it’s all 100% true.

              Here’s another fact for you - those CW’s and fat dudes, at least AJ actually fought them. Fury didn’t fancy the Usyk fight next and wanted a tune up against yet another hand picked bum.

              How can you justify Fury fighting ONE top ten fighter since 2015? His resume is wafer thin. Let’s see how he does against that ‘CW’ Usyk, that’s if he ever fights him.
              This man knows his boxing .

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              • Stuart Chandler
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                #137
                Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                Yep. I put Hrgovic, Fury, Joyce and Wilder above Whyte. Hell, I would take a punt on Dubois as well. I rank Whyte below those guys and Joshua somewhere in between. Simply from what I know about boxing. Both have looked far too vulnerable among far too low ranked opponents.
                When Fury loses to such a low ranked Whyte you’ll have to keep that same energy and rank him below all those guys when he’s found out .

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