Cotto has a good defence.........

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  • RRICAN
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    i'm not interested enough to rewatch the fight. if someone could get a link that'd be cool.
    maybe you should. youll stop complaining on the decision if you score it without being so biased against cotto.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #22
      Originally posted by RRICAN
      maybe you should. youll stop complaining on the decision if you score it without being so biased against cotto.
      nah, i know what I saw. anyways, I'm talking specifically about the cut.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        nah, i know what I saw. anyways, I'm talking specifically about the cut.
        It was a headbutt. You know that.

        The cut against Mosley was a headbutt with 45 seconds left in the 12th round that they both acknowledged.

        Against Judah, the cut inside his mouth was from an uppercut, cut on the head was a headbutt.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          nah, i know what I saw. anyways, I'm talking specifically about the cut.
          So, how long have you been miopic?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            all of them but shane are either C level or too small to beat cotto.

            I thought shane won that fight... but it was in MSG.


            /shrug.

            bottomline, cotto's defense is not good against uppercuts or overhand rights. he defense jabs just fine.



            clottey doesn't throw the overhand right, he throws the straight right. cotto defense does cover that atleast.


            from time to time. but cotto is oopen for the overhand right and the uppercut.


            all he need to do is tuck in his elbows to defend the uppercut when he earmuffs and keep his left hand high when he's not earmuffing.


            You dont understand the mechanics of Boxing do you. When he puts his ear muffs on is when!! he is bringing his head over his lead foot and puts too much weight on his left leg leaving him exposed to uppercuts because he is leaning in.

            Learn something about the mechanics of Boxing.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #26
              Originally posted by RRICAN
              maybe you should. youll stop complaining on the decision if you score it without being so biased against cotto.
              I recently rewatched and scored it and I still had mosley coming out on top. I can accept that cotto got the decision in MSG... now lets see the rematch outside of MSG.

              Originally posted by savorduhflavor
              It was a headbutt. You know that.

              The cut against Mosley was a headbutt with 45 seconds left in the 12th round that they both acknowledged.

              Against Judah, the cut inside his mouth was from an uppercut, cut on the head was a headbutt.
              links please

              Originally posted by Navyboxer1109
              So, how long have you been miopic?
              never

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              • Dynamite Kid
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                #27
                Originally posted by oldgringo
                His defense is good enough. Cotto is able to block, slip and dodge punches in spots very well, he just doesn't sustain it throughout the course of the fight. If Cotto had poor defense like you say, Gatti defense, he'd have a few more losses on his record.

                Margarito smashed Cotto's nose with a punch, but the Clottey cut was a headbutt...a bad one. It's not exactly easy to defend yourself after something like that.



                If you watch that video you can see him defending well before he drops Clottey with the stiff jab. I know this is a quick highlight video, but it's like I said, he's good at defending himself in spots...he just has to work on being more consistent with his defense. He is generally fundamentally sound. Cotto has been like this throughout his career.

                The spot where pretty much everyone agrees Cotto needs work on is his defense inside against the uppercut and chopping right hand. He is a body puncher, so he gets inside and opens up a bit so that he can target soft spots. This is where he gets in trouble and his better opponents have exploited this with varying degrees of success. He hangs his head out there a bit too long and becomes predictable, relying on reflexes to pull himself away from return fire.
                Exactly, the way Pullcounter goes on you would think his defence could scarcely be any worse.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  You dont understand the mechanics of Boxing do you.
                  yes I do

                  When he puts his ear muffs on is when!! he is bringing his head over his lead foot and puts too much weight on his left leg leaving him exposed to uppercuts because he is leaning in.
                  doesn't matter. if he tucks in his elbows he can block the uppercuts.

                  Learn something about the mechanics of Boxing.
                  you to.

                  Originally posted by Katz
                  Cotto's defence is just average. nothing really special...
                  this is true

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    Exactly, the way Pullcounter goes on you would think his defence could scarcely be any worse.
                    I dunno what you are talking about. all I said was that cotto is vulnerable to uppercuts and overhand rights. everything else cotto's defense can cope with.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      yes I do


                      doesn't matter. if he tucks in his elbows he can block the uppercuts.


                      you to.



                      this is true
                      What do you mean tuck his elbows in? cross arm defence ?

                      That does not block uppercuts very well, watch Cooper vs Holyfield and see which punch turns the fight in Holyfield's favour.

                      If you mean tuck his elbows in like Sturm that is just ridiculous thing to suggest, it would be extremely uncomfortable for him and would leave his body open.

                      He should not be leaning in period then he does not have to worry about it.

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