Cotto has a good defence.........

[Warbeast]

Cotto has an underrated defence.

Cotto suffered a bad nose bleed against Margarito that he clearly struggled with, he also got cut against Clottey which meant he had to fight almost the whole fight with that cut.

Cotto actually showed an excellent defence early in his career. Cotto is more likely to roll,slip or block a punch than Manny is, Manny just has quick feet. The reason Cotto get hits sometimes more than he should is because of his stance not necessarily his defence, although you could argue that is part of his defence.


If you wanna look at it like this. Manny does not get hit as much so he does have a better D, or Cotto has better defensive skills when it comes to slipping parrying, blocking but his stance leaves him open sometimes, plus he has had to deal with a adversity from cuts/bloody nose in his fights which upset his rhythm imo. Depends on how you look at it i guess.

You would prolly have to say the guy that gets hit less has a better D and that might be Pac considering Cotto has been hit by Judah, Torres, Marg and Clottey but i think his stance is a big part of why he gets nailed sometimes and he does have a really good defence but that stance leaves him open.

Trust me if you watch Cotto first 15 fights you will see a very nice defensive skill.


Whats ironic about what i posted is that i think Cotto' stance will leave him wide open for Manny's straight left hand and i think Cotto will get tattooed with it, but that is to do more with his stance than anything.

the cotto you knew and the cotto today is different.

[Pullcounter]

Cotto has an underrated defence.

nah, its not that good

Cotto suffered a bad nose bleed against Margarito that he clearly struggled with,

what caused the nose bleed tho? a punch!

he also got cut against Clottey which meant he had to fight almost the whole fight with that cut.

what caused the cut tho? a punch (i think?).

Cotto actually showed an excellent defence early in his career.

against bums and midgets that couldn't hurt him

Cotto is more likely to roll,slip or block a punch than Manny is,

true, but that's because cotto is more stationary than pac... cotto is a robot.

Manny just has quick feet.

yep, mobility.

The reason Cotto get hits sometimes more than he should is because of his stance not necessarily his defence,

nah, his defense is poor. he is open for the overhand right and open up the middle. he never seen an uppercut he didn't want to get hit with.

although you could argue that is part of his defence.

yes it is part of defense

If you wanna look at it like this. Manny does not get hit as much so he does have a better D,

manny gets hit... because he's an offensive minded boxer. I wouldn't say his defense is better than cotto's.

or Cotto has better defensive skills when it comes to slipping parrying, blocking but his stance leaves him open sometimes,

the 2 punches that cotto cannot slip, parry, block are the overhand right and the uppercut. why? first of all, cotto does not move his head much. cotto does the earmuff without tucking his elbows in close so he gets hit w/ uppercuts. cotto lead hand is low so he gets hit with overhand rights.

plus he has had to deal with a adversity from cuts/bloody nose in his fights which upset his rhythm imo.

he wouldn't get cut or his nose bloodied if he didn't get hit with punches... that means his defense has holes.

Depends on how you look at it i guess.

not really, the only way to look at it is that cotto's defense is not great.

You would prolly have to say the guy that gets hit less has a better D and that might be Pac considering Cotto has been hit by Judah, Torres, Marg and Clottey but i think his stance is a big part of why he gets nailed sometimes and he does have a really good defence but that stance leaves him open.

no... cotto's defense is horrible against uppercuts and overhand rights.

Trust me if you watch Cotto first 15 fights you will see a very nice defensive skill.

first 15 fights were against B to D level boxers. don't think that's a good measuring stick.

Whats ironic about what i posted is that i think Cotto' stance will leave him wide open for Manny's straight left hand and i think Cotto will get tattooed with it, but that is to do more with his stance than anything.

nope. unless cotto tucks in his elbows he will get hit with it. cotto's defense is not great.

[Pullcounter]

the cotto you knew and the cotto today is different.

false... the cotto you knew fought weak opponents... the cotto today is fighting the best and is getting beat up.

[Navyboxer1109]

false... the cotto you knew fought weak opponents... the cotto today is fighting the best and is getting beat up.

Randal Bailey, Jan Luca Branca, Kelson Pinto, Adulaev, Urktay, Chop Chop Corely (who made Mayweather actually work for his split decision win), Shane, Paulie.....weak opponents? You need to re-evaluate that last statement.

[Dynamite Kid]

nah, its not that good


what caused the nose bleed tho? a punch!


what caused the cut tho? a punch (i think?).


against bums and midgets that couldn't hurt him


true, but that's because cotto is more stationary than pac... cotto is a robot.


yep, mobility.


nah, his defense is poor. he is open for the overhand right and open up the middle. he never seen an uppercut he didn't want to get hit with.


yes it is part of defense


manny gets hit... because he's an offensive minded boxer. I wouldn't say his defense is better than cotto's.


the 2 punches that cotto cannot slip, parry, block are the overhand right and the uppercut. why? first of all, cotto does not move his head much. cotto does the earmuff without tucking his elbows in close so he gets hit w/ uppercuts. cotto lead hand is low so he gets hit with overhand rights.


he wouldn't get cut or his nose bloodied if he didn't get hit with punches... that means his defense has holes.


not really, the only way to look at it is that cotto's defense is not great.


no... cotto's defense is horrible against uppercuts and overhand rights.


first 15 fights were against B to D level boxers. don't think that's a good measuring stick.


nope. unless cotto tucks in his elbows he will get hit with it. cotto's defense is not great.

the 2 punches that cotto cannot slip, parry, block are the overhand right and the uppercut. why? first of all, cotto does not move his head much. cotto does the earmuff without tucking his elbows in close so he gets hit w/ uppercuts. cotto lead hand is low so he gets hit with overhand rights.


Its his stance that leaves him open to uppercuts, he puts too much weight on his left leg and when you do that invariably your head leans foward more making you susceptible to jabs in the face and uppercuts and right hands. You cant shift your weight quick enough when you have all your weight on the front leg, thats why Trinidad eat Winky's jab all night, he fights with all his weight on his lead foot.



If his defence was a not underrated then he would of got nailed by numerous right hands that he rolled when Clottey tried to throw 1 2 when he was near the ropes, but instead Cotto was rolling and pivoting away from those right hands.


Cotto does not use head movement no, he uses upper body movement, which are two different things.

If Cotto centralized his weight he would have the option of stepping back and counter with the right hand or uppercut but he does not give himself the chance to do that because he puts too much weight on his left leg.

[JM1]

cotto has a good defense but upon my recent review of his fights i was able to spot a lot of weaknesses

[RRICAN]

nah, its not that good


what caused the nose bleed tho? a punch!


what caused the cut tho? a punch (i think?).

clottey cut cotto with a headbutt, his 3rd glove. the rest i am not wasting my time

[Pullcounter]

Randal Bailey, Jan Luca Branca, Kelson Pinto, Adulaev, Urktay, Chop Chop Corely (who made Mayweather actually work for his split decision win), Shane, Paulie.....weak opponents? You need to re-evaluate that last statement.

all of them but shane are either C level or too small to beat cotto.

I thought shane won that fight... but it was in MSG.

Its his stance that leaves him open to uppercuts, he puts too much weight on his left leg and when you do that invariably your head leans foward more making you susceptible to jabs in the face and uppercuts and right hands. You cant shift your weight quick enough when you have all your weight on the front leg, thats why Trinidad eat Winky's jab all night, he fights with all his weight on his lead foot.

/shrug.

bottomline, cotto's defense is not good against uppercuts or overhand rights. he defense jabs just fine.

If his defence was a not underrated then he would of got nailed by numerous right hands that he rolled when Clottey tried to throw 1 2 when he was near the ropes, but instead Cotto was rolling and pivoting away from those right hands.

clottey doesn't throw the overhand right, he throws the straight right. cotto defense does cover that atleast.

Cotto does not use head movement no, he uses upper body movement, which are two different things.

from time to time. but cotto is oopen for the overhand right and the uppercut.

If Cotto centralized his weight he would have the option of stepping back and counter with the right hand or uppercut but he does not give himself the chance to do that because he puts too much weight on his left leg.

all he need to do is tuck in his elbows to defend the uppercut when he earmuffs and keep his left hand high when he's not earmuffing.

[Pullcounter]

clottey cut cotto with a headbutt, his 3rd glove. the rest i am not wasting my time

i'm not interested enough to rewatch the fight. if someone could get a link that'd be cool.

[oldgringo]

nah, its not that good

what caused the nose bleed tho? a punch!

what caused the cut tho? a punch (i think?).

against bums and midgets that couldn't hurt him

true, but that's because cotto is more stationary than pac... cotto is a robot.

yep, mobility.

nah, his defense is poor. he is open for the overhand right and open up the middle. he never seen an uppercut he didn't want to get hit with.

yes it is part of defense

manny gets hit... because he's an offensive minded boxer. I wouldn't say his defense is better than cotto's.

the 2 punches that cotto cannot slip, parry, block are the overhand right and the uppercut. why? first of all, cotto does not move his head much. cotto does the earmuff without tucking his elbows in close so he gets hit w/ uppercuts. cotto lead hand is low so he gets hit with overhand rights.

he wouldn't get cut or his nose bloodied if he didn't get hit with punches... that means his defense has holes.

not really, the only way to look at it is that cotto's defense is not great.

no... cotto's defense is horrible against uppercuts and overhand rights.

first 15 fights were against B to D level boxers. don't think that's a good measuring stick.

nope. unless cotto tucks in his elbows he will get hit with it. cotto's defense is not great.

His defense is good enough. Cotto is able to block, slip and dodge punches in spots very well, he just doesn't sustain it throughout the course of the fight. If Cotto had poor defense like you say, Gatti defense, he'd have a few more losses on his record.

Margarito smashed Cotto's nose with a punch, but the Clottey cut was a headbutt...a bad one. It's not exactly easy to defend yourself after something like that.



If you watch that video you can see him defending well before he drops Clottey with the stiff jab. I know this is a quick highlight video, but it's like I said, he's good at defending himself in spots...he just has to work on being more consistent with his defense. He is generally fundamentally sound. Cotto has been like this throughout his career.

The spot where pretty much everyone agrees Cotto needs work on is his defense inside against the uppercut and chopping right hand. He is a body puncher, so he gets inside and opens up a bit so that he can target soft spots. This is where he gets in trouble and his better opponents have exploited this with varying degrees of success. He hangs his head out there a bit too long and becomes predictable, relying on reflexes to pull himself away from return fire.