Comments Thread For: Hearn Open To Sign Crawford: "But We'd Struggle To Deliver Purses Terence Would Want Unless He Were Sensible"

[champion4ever]

His PPV numbers, His guaranteed purses. You really don’t need to look any further than this.

Don’t clutch at straws. You have nothing to base your allegation of arum “falsely claiming” to Overpaying bud. Anyone with common sense can realise his numbers don’t equate to the money he expects.

Even Eddie is correct here and he’s saying bud needs to realise.

Well let me ask you this question. How much is Vasiliy Lomachenko's guarantee then? I'll answer it for you. It's roughly around the same amount as Bud Crawford's guarantee; Between $3.5- $4M per fight. However, i not once has ever heard Bob Arum say that he was losing money on Loma's fights and I wonder why is that so? The answer is so plain, clear an obvious that even a fool wouldn't miss it.

[champion4ever]

You dont know what you're talking about.

You have no idea how much of Crawford's guarantee was covered by ESPN. Bob was his promoter, not ESPN. For all you know, ESPN was only paying a $2 or $3 million guarantee, with an upside on subs that maybe did or did not hit the number. You haven't the slightest idea whether or not Top Rank made money or lost money, or how the ESPN / Top Rank deal is structured.

But because Bob is a white guy, he must be lying. We get it. Your position is obvious.

And neither does you. All I know is that Crawford fought mostly before large and sold out crowds that were nearly filled to seating capacity while he was yet still signed with Top Rank.

Now was Bud actually selling all of those tickets at the live gate or could it have been that Arum was just simply giving them away as complimentary tickets since Bud's guarantee was largely coming from the HBO/ESPN platform's licensing fees?

In addition, No, I've never said that Bob was lying but you did. Those are your words not mine. However, I do believe as a boxing promoter that there is the strong possibility that Arum may be embellishing or overstating his financial losses over Terence Crawford just a bit.

Besides, if Top Rank and Bob Arum was truly losing all of this money on Bud then why were they kept signing him to all of these different contract extensions then? I'm pretty sure that no one gets into the fight game to lose money but to make money

[OnePunch]

And neither does you. All I know is that Crawford fought mostly before large and sold out crowds that were nearly filled to seating capacity while he was yet still signed with Top Rank.

Now was Bud actually selling all of those tickets at the live gate or could it have been that Arum was just simply giving them away as complimentary tickets since Bud's guarantee was largely coming from the HBO/ESPN platform's licensing fees?

In addition, No, I've never said that Bob was lying but you did. Those are your words not mine. However, I do believe as a boxing promoter that there is the strong possibility that Arum may be embellishing or overstating his financial losses over Terence Crawford just a bit.

Besides, if Top Rank and Bob Arum was truly losing all of this money on Bud then why were they kept signing him to all of these different contract extensions then? I'm pretty sure that no one gets into the fight game to lose money but to make money

Yes you did. You said Bob "falsely" stated losses. That is accusing him of lying, is it not?

And I never said Bob lost money. I said it was CONCEIVABLE that he lost money. Because it is. In the Golden Boy vs Haymon lawsuit it came out in discovery that Golden Boy was losing money on EVERY fighter in their stable except Canelo. And thats how it works sometimes. The revenue from the cash cows is used to subsidize the other players, until hopefully one of them turns into a cash cow themselves. So it is 100% possible that TR has lost money on Crawford.

And I dont know whether TR made money, lost money, or broke even. Any of those options is possible. YOU were the one saying Bobs loss allegations were false.

[tritium_arma]

Bud should try to get in on the next Triad Combat.