Joshua is good, but nothing like a Lewis.

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #81
    Originally posted by edgarg

    You forget Cuban Luis Rodriguez,who was a welter, fighting and beating top middleweights. He bet Emil Griffith, and was wella head with Benvenuti when caught by a lucky one time punch. in the 13th rd. Benvenuti was one of the better m,iddles champions.
    - - I'm talking Castro Cubanos of today, not Kid Chocolate.

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    • Century Tuna
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      #82
      Originally posted by mrbig1
      AJ would be damn lucky to go 5 rounds against Lewis. Better boxer and bigger puncher.
      Lewis is the last of the great heavyweights, whereas Joshua was a promotional stunt hype job carried by his puppet promoter.

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        #83
        Originally posted by baroidi
        outside of the most diehard Joshua & Matchroom fans, I think the majority of boxing fans & writers now agree that Joshua was a marketing job, he's a decent HW in this weak era but he should never have been considered a potential ATG.
        I agree with you

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          #84
          Lewis was better than AJ: higher IQ, better technique, better jab. But he had his flaws too. He was a bit chinny.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Century Tuna

            Lewis is the last of the great heavyweights, whereas Joshua was a promotional stunt hype job carried by his puppet promoter.
            Fury isn't any worse than Lewis. He might be better than him actually.

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              #86
              People keep mentioning Frank Bruno, and comparing Joshua to Bruno.

              Frank Bruno had better boxing fundamentals than Joshua. Bruno had one of the best Jabs of the 90's, top-2 Jabs of the 90's.

              A peak Frank Bruno, which was the version who faced Lennox Lewis. Would not be a easy fight for Joshua.

              Bruno would out jab Joshua, and he could ****. And no matter what people say, Bruno never just disappeared.

              He always put up good resistance.

              Joshua is a good heavyweight for this era. But his inability to fight as a Super heavyweight, kind of makes fights that should be straight forward difficult.

              Usyk is a great fighter, but he would be a straight forward tactical fight for Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko, Vitali Kiltschko etc.

              Usyk may not be a straight forward fight for Tyson Fury, only because Kronk Fury in some area's of his game has regressed.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Century Tuna
                Lewis’ two losses were avenged by ko. Lewis was the best ever to come from that side of the pond and arguably the best heavyweight of his generation.
                - - Both are far beyond the capacity of U soft infantile taffey to understand.

                Let us know when U get out of grade school.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  Yeah Lewis was far more talented, Joshua is much closer to Bruno than he is Lewis.
                  Bruno was even a better technical boxer than Joshua and genuinely humble.

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                    #89
                    I don't think Lewis ever fought anyone as good as usyk. Not even vitali

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      I don't think Lewis ever fought anyone as good as usyk. Not even vitali
                      Times change, skill for skill maybe Lewis did not fight anyone on the level of Usyk. But he has definitely fought more dangerous lethal fighters offensively.

                      At the time when Golota fought Lewis, he was one of the baddest fighters on the planet. Sometimes it does not matter about your skills at heavyweight, it is about the level of danger you can create. For all we know, somebody like Razor Ruddock would of blasted out Usyk.

                      The fighters Lewis faced, were all vividly violent way more aggressive fighters than the fighters we see today. Aggression for some strange reason has gone backwards in boxing, boxers at elite level less aggressive. Pundits, coaches have to convince their fighters to be aggressive.

                      Usyk is a great fighter, but really? Joshua has zero idea how to fight like a super heavyweight. He has made his fights with Uysk way too complicated.

                      No Jab, no rough housing, no inside game.

                      Usyk does not have the power to even registered with Lennox Lewis, and he is not out boxing him from long range.

                      Note: I actually think Evander Holyfield is a more rounded fighter than Usyk. I rate Usyk, I like him as a fighter but? I am not getting carried away.

                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-22-2022, 08:06 AM.

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