Joshua is good, but nothing like a Lewis.

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  • edgarg
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    #71
    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    Lewis’ two losses were avenged by ko. Lewis was the best ever to come from that side of the pond and arguably the best heavyweight of his generation.
    Yes, but the Best ||British boxer of all time was also Lewis, but not Lennox Lewis... I mean it was Ted "Kid" Lewis.

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      #72
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - - AJ ain't never been one punched KOed like Lewie. Like Wlad, he's always been on his feet and defended his unified titles unlike Lewie who ducked the Ks, Ruiz and Byrd...you're welcome...
      When you talk Klitschko I suppose you mean that fight with Sanders. If you do, please watch it again and closely, slo mo if you can. You'll see, like I did, that Sanders' head hits Klitschko's jaw a half second before his fist, and Klitschko was already on his way down after the head butt. Sanders had that habit of throwing his head and his fist at about the same time. I don't say that Klitschko would have won, but if the ref had caught the butt, Sanders would have been DQd

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        #73
        Originally posted by Nash out

        I just remember Tua as a hard-hitting, durable, but ultimately stiff plodder. Don't get why he's even mentioned these days tbh. Nash out.
        I think your memory id out of kilter. Have another look at a Tua fight.. He was a fast puncher, very durable, and never hurt.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Nash out

          Maybe so, but there's nothing to suggest he'd be anything more than a contender today. And Ike, is widely rated on what could/may have been, rather than what was. Of course, a shame how things worked out for him, but just like Tyson's prison stint, we'll just never know, yet too many people give him an automatic pass with the he would have done this, and he would have done that, but the fact remains, he didn't.

          I've said before, and fully believe that modern fighters are held to impossible standards in situations when older fighters got a pass. I mean, we all know the stick Frazier would get today for being knocked down about 10 times in 2 rounds vs Foreman, but cause it's olden era, he gets a pass. Nash out.
          Frazier doesn't get a pass from me, and never did. He was strictly a one arm puncher who had to get close, because he only had a left hook but couldn't extend his arm because of an old injury You KNOW this I'm sure but forgot to mention it.

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            #75
            Originally posted by billeau2

            yeah he ducked his mandos because they were shiat. He fought Grant who was considered much more of a threat at the time than no punching Ruiz... and Byrd? Ok. Vlad always fought his mandos for the same reason! (because they were shiat, an easy mark) Lol.
            Have another look at the Grant fight. Lewis caught him behind the head and pulled it down into his uppercut. THAT's what heat Grant. I don't say that Lewis wouldn't have eventually won if he'd fought fairly, but we'll never know..

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              #76
              Originally posted by buddyr

              oliver mccall had the best chin in the history of the sport. Never knocked down or hurt. I'm 100% sure he'd ko Joshua too.
              McCall, AND Tua,,AND V.Klitschko, And Hagler, And Golovkin, and quite a few more. that I can't think of now.

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                #77
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Ugh, all Cubanos have done since washing up in America is stink out the place save Gamboa and Ortiz who at least come to fight even when they lose.
                You forget Cuban Luis Rodriguez,who was a welter, fighting and beating top middleweights. He bet Emil Griffith, and was wella head with Benvenuti when caught by a lucky one time punch. in the 13th rd. Benvenuti was one of the better m,iddles champions.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by edgarg

                  Have another look at the Grant fight. Lewis caught him behind the head and pulled it down into his uppercut. THAT's what heat Grant. I don't say that Lewis wouldn't have eventually won if he'd fought fairly, but we'll never know..
                  Rough House tactics, are important skills. Only really Tyson Fury implements rough house tactics at elite Heavyweight level.

                  There used to be a you tube channel were a boxing coach, would go through all the rough house tactics a fighter should use etc

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Nash out
                    Let's be honest the older generation gets overhyped. The reality with Lewis is he was 1-1 with McCall, 1-1 with Rahman, lost in his prime to a finished Mercer (robbery) beat the shell of the ghost of Mike Tyson, and went 1-1-0 with Holyfield who lost tons of fights to mediocre opposition, then took an absolute pasting from Vitali, but got very fortunate with the lucky cut. Cuts are just luck and by chance if we are honest. Quality operator, but those acting like he'd be levels above today are kidding themselves. Any of today's top 10 HW's could on their day beat him. Nash out.
                    I don’t like lummox lewis but he would beat **** of todays HW and of all in 60s 70s era

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by edgarg

                      When you talk Klitschko I suppose you mean that fight with Sanders. If you do, please watch it again and closely, slo mo if you can. You'll see, like I did, that Sanders' head hits Klitschko's jaw a half second before his fist, and Klitschko was already on his way down after the head butt. Sanders had that habit of throwing his head and his fist at about the same time. I don't say that Klitschko would have won, but if the ref had caught the butt, Sanders would have been DQd
                      - - Standard lefty fight issues that left them out of title challenges or converted ortho so they could get good fights.

                      That combo I've long maintained would've left any heavyweight in the same state. Corrie multisport athlete exceedingly quick and powerful handicapped by being lefty and SAfrican regular jobs were pro Rugby and Golf. Wlad holds the heavy record for most title fights against lefties.

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